mosssideblue
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Who would you want in no 10?
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Sir Keir Starmer
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Sorry mate, I appreciate you're a Labour man and if I was in the UK they would still get my vote but only because they are still just about the best of a bad bunch.Who would you want in no 10?
It's not for me to say who should be there but the evidence is mounting that the man who actually is doesn't deserve to be.
It's hard to keep defending this shitshow and I suspect there's still more to come.
BigJoe#1
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Allegedly..... there were many involved in (I'm assuming you're relating it to covid) the decisions taken.Johnson responsible for thousands of deaths, just think on that
Why are you defending Starmer here? It is the most indefensible position there has been in Politics for decades.
"yes, I knew he was involved with Epstein an had an ongoing relationship yet I still appointed him" FFS
mosssideblue
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I’m only defending him against your allegations of being much worse than Johnson and TrussAllegedly..... there were many involved in (I'm assuming you're relating it to covid) the decisions taken.
Why are you defending Starmer here? It is the most indefensible position there has been in Politics for decades.
"yes, I knew he was involved with Epstein an had an ongoing relationship yet I still appointed him" FFS
BigJoe#1
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For me the choice is very hard. Not KS is as far as I can go.Who would you want in no 10?
mosssideblue
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For sure the heat is on him and, as you say, they are the best of what’s available.Sorry mate, I appreciate you're a Labour man and if I was in the UK they would still get my vote but only because they are still just about the best of a bad bunch.
It's not for me to say who should be there but the evidence is mounting that the man who actually is doesn't deserve to be.
It's hard to keep defending this shitshow and I suspect there's still more to come.
mosssideblue
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So Johnson had others advising him. Are you saying Starmer doesn’t?Allegedly..... there were many involved in (I'm assuming you're relating it to covid) the decisions taken.
Why are you defending Starmer here? It is the most indefensible position there has been in Politics for decades.
"yes, I knew he was involved with Epstein an had an ongoing relationship yet I still appointed him" FFS
BigJoe#1
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Really? I think the only success he can claim to date is ending his own career.I’m only defending him against your allegations of being much worse than Johnson and Truss
The anger and vitriol toward HIM in the HoC in todays debate from both sides of the house is something I very rarely, if ever seen before
BigJoe#1
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Starmer said "I knew of his association after the conviction and knowing that I appointed him"So Johnson had others advising him. Are you saying Starmer doesn’t?
Pretty conclusive.
mosssideblue
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I’m not claiming Starmer isn’t at fault but your bias really weakens your argument as to who was worse.Starmer said "I knew of his association after the conviction and knowing that I appointed him"
Pretty conclusive.
Johnson ignored the scientists and his board and making the decisions he did, resulting in thousands losing their life
mosssideblue
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Agree, but I maintain Johnson did much more damage to the countryReally? I think the only success he can claim to date is ending his own career.
The anger and vitriol toward HIM in the HoC in todays debate from both sides of the house is something I very rarely, if ever seen before
Absolutely no doubt about it.Agree, but I maintain Johnson did much more damage to the country
TinFoilHat
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Wesley is already sniffing out backers.
Starmer is a gonner. But I don't want that sociopathic narcissist taking over
Starmer is a gonner. But I don't want that sociopathic narcissist taking over
metalblue
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Wesley is already sniffing out backers.
Starmer is a gonner. But I don't want that sociopathic narcissist taking over
Mahmood is setting her stall out, has been for a few weeks now…
I posted this back in September, just after Mandelson resigned;
"No, merely surmising that M remained very close to E even after his earlier conviction, and that Starmer knew this. Even if Starmer didn't, it's impossible to prove."
Everything with Mandelson has always been multi layered and unpleasant. It's been a given for years.
I CAN, however, actually understand why someone might (on first acquaintance or early on) think M fitted the role of an Ambassor. He is a social networking supremo who no doubt plays the perfect host.
It's just the little matter of integrity that has always been missing.
Starmer should have known better and it's this case, more than anything else, that proves Starmer isn't up to the job.
Unless, of course, Starmer knew M had something on him?
"No, merely surmising that M remained very close to E even after his earlier conviction, and that Starmer knew this. Even if Starmer didn't, it's impossible to prove."
Everything with Mandelson has always been multi layered and unpleasant. It's been a given for years.
I CAN, however, actually understand why someone might (on first acquaintance or early on) think M fitted the role of an Ambassor. He is a social networking supremo who no doubt plays the perfect host.
It's just the little matter of integrity that has always been missing.
Starmer should have known better and it's this case, more than anything else, that proves Starmer isn't up to the job.
Unless, of course, Starmer knew M had something on him?
TinFoilHat
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Labour has an embarrassment of riches waiting to take over...Mahmood is setting her stall out, has been for a few weeks now…
metalblue
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Labour has an embarrassment of riches waiting to take over...
I don’t mind seeing a fair fight but some right sneaky shits vying for the top job mate. Pulled some absolute shitbag tricks.
Unfortunately for the party members, as I see it, the right have got hold of the Labour Party (by design) so you know it’s going to be bad outcome for you leftie tossers whom I mostly rather like ;). You will reclaim the party at some point - I just do not see that being now, barring a miracle. What a time to be alive.
TinFoilHat
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Only after a humiliation at the next General election. Should that occur we will the start the whole party of protest cycle for the next decade at least.I don’t mind seeing a fair fight but some right sneaky shits vying for the top job mate. Pulled some absolute shitbag tricks.
Unfortunately for the party members, as I see it, the right have got hold of the Labour Party (by design) so you know it’s going to be bad outcome for you leftie tossers whom I mostly rather like ;). You will reclaim the party at some point - I just do not see that being now, barring a miracle. What a time to be alive.
Guy who?Guy is an utter wank.