VAR Discussion Thread

Bluesince1979 said:
Do you think var is a success?
Click to expand...
VAR in the EPL is dreadful. Absolutely dreadful and that’s down to those who seem to make it up as they go along.

I’m not really neutral as I want to see City winning but I’m not a die hard fan and even I can see some glaring decisions go against City
such as the Handball recently (Wolves I think)
but in fairness that wasn’t VAR but the referee.

You’re never going to get rid of the controversy on subjective decisions but there have been factual decisions that are at the very least questionable. A recent Liverpool offside decision comes to mind
 
No.8 said:
Yes. He played advantage with the foul on Haaland.

I’d love to hear your explanation how Liverpool gained on the foul on their defender
Click to expand...
Its quite simple. A referee can use his discretion. He did not book a dipper after 10 minutes for a blatant shirt pull. He doesnt have to although usually it is a yellow card. Several times in the game he saw a foul and waved play on. He's allowed to do that as well.
He saw both fouls and ignored them as again he is allowed to do. Var decided it had to intervene. Pawson should have stuck to his original decision.

Var was meant for instances like the Tierry Henry handball goal, incidents missed by the referee, they are not meant to re referee a game. But they did.
 
We got the benefit of a 50/50 decision on the Guehi pull on Salah's shirt.
Obvious foul on Nunes for the penalty but had he already got his shot/pass away and raises the current issue of is it a foul when the attacking player has already got his shot/pass away and/or the ball has gone out of play.
In the light of the Foden non pen against Newcastle and the non pen for Brentford vs Newcastle last night what is the rule?
PS For the record I think all three are pens.
 
If the game was 1-1 and this had happened and we ended with a free kick with 15 seconds to go I can't imagine a single.person on here saying var got it correct. I don't think Szoboalobalobalobalob realised when he got up and started whingeing at the referee that actually a 3-1 defeat and no red card was their best option.
 
Blue Mist said:
Its quite simple. A referee can use his discretion. He did not book a dipper after 10 minutes for a blatant shirt pull. He doesnt have to although usually it is a yellow card. Several times in the game he saw a foul and waved play on. He's allowed to do that as well.
He saw both fouls and ignored them as again he is allowed to do. Var decided it had to intervene. Pawson should have stuck to his original decision.

Var was meant for instances like the Tierry Henry handball goal, incidents missed by the referee, they are not meant to re referee a game. But they did.
Click to expand...
A pull isn’t automatically a cautionable offence. In the case you’re referring to it actually should have been a yellow. Stopped a promising attack

You’re not getting this!

There is no advantage to Liverpool when Haaland fouls the defender.

You’re right it was brought in for instances that are clear and obvious mistakes. Not giving the Haaland foul was as clear and obvious as the Henry incident. Every body saw it. Every body knows it’s a foul. There is simply no debate to be had whether it’s a foul or not

You’re complaining about VAR , and there are many faults with the protocol , but at the same time asking it to ignore a clear and obvious mistake
 
No.8 said:
Haaland is going to score and is fouled. Ref plays an advantage

Haaland in turn clearly fouls the defender stopping him from clearing the ball

wtf do you want the officials to do? You’re seriously expecting the officials to ignore the laws of the game?
Click to expand...

The defender was never getting to that ball, even if he had been tugged.
 
No.8 said:
Haaland is going to score and is fouled. Ref plays an advantage

Haaland in turn clearly fouls the defender stopping him from clearing the ball

wtf do you want the officials to do? You’re seriously expecting the officials to ignore the laws of the game?
Click to expand...
Yes. None of the fouling shit mattered because ultimately it was a goal. All was fair.. Cherki gets a goal, no one gets sent off. After examination though it was a foul so was a red, but I much prefer the refs decision, it avoids all the controversy and shit we're hearing now.
 
No.8 said:
Yes. He played advantage with the foul on Haaland.

I’d love to hear your explanation how Liverpool gained on the foul on their defender
Click to expand...
They gained as Erl would have already scored and not needed to tug him back, the fact that Erl was behind him and not yards in front was due to them gaining from the initial pull so that where they gained you plum
 
Was the correct decision (for once) although if Kiverpool has their time again they might have preferred to say that Szoboszai sasnt fouled and let the goal stand.
 
AirbagsOptionalTheReturn said:
They gained as Erl would have already scored and not needed to tug him back, the fact that Erl was behind him and not yards in front was due to them gaining from the initial pull so that where they gained you plum
Click to expand...
Hahaha. Ok

I’ll talk you through it really slowly for you

Liverpool gained an advantage by fouling Haaland. Ref plays an advantage as Haaland may still get the ball/ ball goes in anyway.

Now defender has an opportunity to clear the ball and Haaland fouls him.

Two separate incidents. VAR flags up the foul on Liverpool defender. You are correct the defender is only there due to the initial foul on Haaland

As I said in my original post you can argue in the spirit of the game that goal should stand but you can’t argue that within the laws of the game VAR got it wrong. Two clear as day fouls
 
No.8 said:
Yes. He played advantage with the foul on Haaland.

I’d love to hear your explanation how Liverpool gained on the foul on their defender
Click to expand...
whilst the decision is correct by the letter of the law im sure slot rather would have the play on rule ie the fouls cancel each other out & have him available for their next game away at sunderland given their problems at right back,
 
No.8 said:
Hahaha. Ok

I’ll talk you through it really slowly for you

Liverpool gained an advantage by fouling Haaland. Ref plays an advantage as Haaland may still get the ball/ ball goes in anyway.

Now defender has an opportunity to clear the ball and Haaland fouls him.

Two separate incidents. VAR flags up the foul on Liverpool defender. You are correct the defender is only there due to the initial foul on Haaland

As I said in my original post you can argue in the spirit of the game that goal should stand but you can’t argue that within the laws of the game VAR got it wrong. Two clear as day fouls
Click to expand...
Yeah do that you patronising twat
 
No.8 said:
Haaland is going to score and is fouled. Ref plays an advantage

Haaland in turn clearly fouls the defender stopping him from clearing the ball

wtf do you want the officials to do? You’re seriously expecting the officials to ignore the laws of the game?
Click to expand...
Absolutely this. I really don’t see what else VAR could have done. Why they had to get involved though I don’t know as they were the two most obvious pulls. How is the ref not making the correct decision there?
 
Originally thought it was a brilliant idea.

Thought city might benefit from such technology or at least have a fair system implemented. Well we don’t.

Its ruins the spontaneous moments in football. It was supposed to be simple mistakes by refs would be told to go back and view if missed. The major moments in games. Now they can influence games and don’t have to answer for it. It’s seems that certain teams get away it it while other get punished far too much.

I don’t like the human element. I want it gone.

Footballs is about enjoying the moment. Feeling like the game is reffed fairly.

It’s not and that saddens me. I barely watch another other team as the games are either ruined or boring. Arse also get away with this weird block the goalkeeper shit which maybe is tactically ok but it’s unsporting and var should be involved but guess it’s not brought in for that. So we see the keeper get blocked at corners. Come on it’s stupid.

Think we have all had enough of it.
 
wolviedinho said:
Originally thought it was a brilliant idea.

Thought city might benefit from such technology or at least have a fair system implemented. Well we don’t.

Its ruins the spontaneous moments in football. It was supposed to be simple mistakes by refs would be told to go back and view if missed. The major moments in games. Now they can influence games and don’t have to answer for it. It’s seems that certain teams get away it it while other get punished far too much.

I don’t like the human element. I want it gone.

Footballs is about enjoying the moment. Feeling like the game is reffed fairly.

It’s not and that saddens me. I barely watch another other team as the games are either ruined or boring. Arse also get away with this weird block the goalkeeper shit which maybe is tactically ok but it’s unsporting and var should be involved but guess it’s not brought in for that. So we see the keeper get blocked at corners. Come on it’s stupid.

Think we have all had enough of it.
Click to expand...

This is what the VAR lovers dont get

“But technically , its right”. When i read people post that, i read it in keir starmers voice

Its an absolute fun stealer!!!
Have it for the ins/outs, but not for subjective decisions because if a ref can get it wrong, so can 2 simps sat in a cabin.
Its a mess.

But it aint going anywhere and i read itll be used for MORE in the world cup.

Imagine canceling a goal and sending someone off for “denying a goal scoring oppurtunity” when the ball went in.

Technically right, but utterly without common sense
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top