hilts
Well-Known Member
Roughly speaking we have 2 million unemployed and a further 9 million inactive aged between 16 and 64 according to AI, although I think that age range isn't the best.Unemployment at 5.2% in December.
Highest in 5 years.
Roughly speaking we have 2 million unemployed and a further 9 million inactive aged between 16 and 64 according to AI, although I think that age range isn't the best.Unemployment at 5.2% in December.
Highest in 5 years.
I've not tried to follow what the basis for the legal challenge was but I'd assumed the government's case was that they had the power in the Local Government Act 2000, s. 87(1):
"The Secretary of State may by order make provision which changes the years in which the ordinary elections of councillors of any specified local authority are to be held but which does not change the scheme which prevails (whether by virtue of an order under section 86 or otherwise) for the ordinary elections of those councillors".
Perhaps it was just that time is ticking on - and even if they won, with possible appeals and the need to make an Order, if they did lose it would leave elections officers even less time to arrange the election than they have now.
Just guessing.
Nobody forced Starmer to u turn he made that decision himself, maybe you should be sending him your musings and why he was right and now is wrong?Lest we forget.
'All three county councils are proposing the creation of single unitary authorities, while the district councils suggest the creation of two new unitary councils for each area. Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick said while those plans were being examined, delaying the elections would be sensible.
"Elections in such circumstances risk confusing voters and would be hard to justify where members could be elected to serve shortened terms," he explained'.
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Local elections postponed in three English counties
The move to delay elections for a year is due to possible changes in how local government is run.www.bbc.co.uk
Now I'm guessing that if Labour had just cancelled the elections like the Tories did it would be lawful but letting councils decide for themselves might not be.
Will the BBC ask Jenrick what the difference is?
Lest we forget.
'All three county councils are proposing the creation of single unitary authorities, while the district councils suggest the creation of two new unitary councils for each area. Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick said while those plans were being examined, delaying the elections would be sensible.
"Elections in such circumstances risk confusing voters and would be hard to justify where members could be elected to serve shortened terms," he explained'.
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Local elections postponed in three English counties
The move to delay elections for a year is due to possible changes in how local government is run.www.bbc.co.uk
Now I'm guessing that if Labour had just cancelled the elections like the Tories did it would be lawful but letting councils decide for themselves might not be.
Will the BBC ask Jenrick what the difference is?
Being a Starmer/Labour supporter must be somewhat of a nightmare, you spend an age defending his latest position/policy with upmost honesty and non bias then he u turns and you have to spend an age defending the exact opposite with upmost honesty and non bias :-)Erm the article you linked said elections were postponed not cancelled??
I suspect the primary difference is there was a legal challenge and the sheer scale and time involved. The fact the government now believe it unlawful is really the only thing that matters, going forward we should not see postponements, at least under the guise of reorganisation.
Delay, postpone, cancel. If they're postponed pending setting up new councils for May 2027 the councils with postponed elections won't then exist. Looking at the article it sounds like the process was less advanced when the Tories did it without all this fuss.Erm the article you linked said elections were postponed not cancelled??
I suspect the primary difference is there was a legal challenge and the sheer scale and time involved. The fact the government now believe it unlawful is really the only thing that matters, going forward we should not see postponements, at least under the guise of reorganisation.
14 years of traps have been set by the yellow Tories and the real ones.I assume these new LA boundaries were a Tory thing and Labour has copped for picking up the pieces but, whoever decided on the changes surely an amoeba would see that the only clever way to do it would be to set the new things up on the LA election day..it really shouldn't be that hard.
In fairness you could put Starmer in a Cameron cabinet or a lib dem one and no one would bat an eyelid. He is a continuation of that period not a change from it.14 years of traps have been set by the yellow Tories and the real ones.
Osbourne's austerity cuts are now hitting hard and it's the new government being blamed.
This government is playing catch up and will need at least 2 terms to try and reverse the greed and poverty created by the Tories.
Ironically, should they succeed it will only be seen when they are out of government and whoever is in will either claim credit or dismantle it and we go round and round again.
Wasn't it always so, the Civil Service was riddled with idiots getting a tick in a box & gold star before moving on leaving a shite system behind, I'm sure the railways are exactly the same.14 years of traps have been set by the yellow Tories and the real ones.
Osbourne's austerity cuts are now hitting hard and it's the new government being blamed.
This government is playing catch up and will need at least 2 terms to try and reverse the greed and poverty created by the Tories.
Ironically, should they succeed it will only be seen when they are out of government and whoever is in will either claim credit or dismantle it and we go round and round again.
14 years of traps have been set by the yellow Tories and the real ones.
Osbourne's austerity cuts are now hitting hard and it's the new government being blamed.
This government is playing catch up and will need at least 2 terms to try and reverse the greed and poverty created by the Tories.
Ironically, should they succeed it will only be seen when they are out of government and whoever is in will either claim credit or dismantle it and we go round and round again.
We have had more than our fair share of "cut and runs".Wasn't it always so, the Civil Service was riddled with idiots getting a tick in a box & gold star before moving on leaving a shite system behind, I'm sure the railways are exactly the same.
Not sure.Can we get the 2 terms down a bit if they stop with the u-turns?
I think most sane people were just hoping this lot would be an improvement on the last lot and tbf the bar was that low it should have been a cakewalk.Being a Starmer/Labour supporter must be somewhat of a nightmare, you spend an age defending his latest position/policy with upmost honesty and non bias then he u turns and you have to spend an age defending the exact opposite with upmost honesty and non bias :-)
You would think lessons would have been learnt by his supporters and keeping quiet for a lengthy period of time seems the only course of action to not appear silly.
Starmer throwing his own under the bus since the general election.
It's a shit show mate, luckily through hard work and an inheritance we've got enough to do what we want within reason but I fear for the younger ones, the country is fucked when the best anyone can do is throw a vote at fucking Reform or some green guys.I think most sane people were just hoping this lot would be an improvement on the last lot and tbf the bar was that low it should have been a cakewalk.
Politicians being politicians though mean that even the simple tap in ends up being a rerun of Diana Ross at the opening of USA World Cup 94.
To lose the support they had in such a short space of time blows my mind.
We laugh and joke about the grown ups being in charge but they seem in short supply across every party right now.
I'm just glad I don't have to choose between them because the choices are various types of shit sandwich.
Being a Starmer/Labour supporter must be somewhat of a nightmare, you spend an age defending his latest position/policy with upmost honesty and non bias then he u turns and you have to spend an age defending the exact opposite with upmost honesty and non bias :-)
You would think lessons would have been learnt by his supporters and keeping quiet for a lengthy period of time seems the only course of action to not appear silly.
Starmer throwing his own under the bus since the general election.

Oh my eyes :-)
Being a Starmer/Labour supporter must be somewhat of a nightmare, you spend an age defending his latest position/policy with upmost honesty and non bias then he u turns and you have to spend an age defending the exact opposite with upmost honesty and non bias :-)
You would think lessons would have been learnt by his supporters and keeping quiet for a lengthy period of time seems the only course of action to not appear silly.
Starmer throwing his own under the bus since the general election.
