The conversation gets a bit muddled, she’s either saying it’s people on the right who are causing people to turn to extremism, which is insane, or she’s making that as a general point to deflect. Either way she looks poor.Instead of reading the tweet, watch the clip. It's nothing like the tweet claims. It's desperate straw-clutching from people on the far-right who know the Greens are favourites to win the by election.
Well that’s for Gorton and Denton to decide.People refusing to do that are morons, but that isn't what the green candidate said. So that's that. As for Matt Goodwin, he's just a slimy fucking wanker who clearly changes his attitudes depending on what graft he can find. We don't need a prick like that in Gorton Denton thanks.
And as someone from Gorton and Denton I will be doing.Well that’s for Gorton and Denton to decide.
The conversation gets a bit muddled, she’s either saying it’s people on the right who are causing people to turn to extremism, which is insane, or she’s making that as a general point to deflect. Either way she looks poor.
This whole “we came together” stuff is guff as far as I’m concerned, we witnessed innocent Mancunians get stabbed to death outside a synagogue recently.
You do you mate. Good luckAnd as someone from Gorton and Denton I will be doing.
Guff or not, there's nothing offensive about what she said on that. As for the tweeter claiming what the tweet claimed, that's bollocks - they were the ones trying to put words in her mouth ffs!The conversation gets a bit muddled, she’s either saying it’s people on the right who are causing people to turn to extremism, which is insane, or she’s making that as a general point to deflect. Either way she looks poor.
This whole “we came together” stuff is guff as far as I’m concerned, we witnessed innocent Mancunians get stabbed to death outside a synagogue recently. It doesn’t go away because you’ve sang don’t look back in anger.
You've centred into a very minor part of my point about Goodwin, but it wasn't just one comment that made me feel he dislikes this area, it's the way he spoke of his visits to the consitunency as well as the comment about being "unfortunate enough, to be in Manchester a few days ago". I've seen the full quote, and you may read it differently to me, but he didn't specify the conference, he specified Manchester.He never said he doesn’t like Manchester. You’ve fallen for the exact thing you’re criticising.
The wider segment Goodwin was criticising the Tory conference in Manchester. Labour cut and spliced one comment to make it look like he said he doesn’t like Manchester, when he was saying he doesn’t like the Tory conference in Manchester. The Manchester bit wasn’t important.
He’s reported Labour for doing it by the way.
Regarding the bombing, we know why he did it, it has absolutely nothing to do with right-wing political figures. The police have communications from him they seized in the investigation.
He had been radicalised in Didsbury mosque under a particular extreme sect within Wahhabism, and had grown to despise Western culture. He saw the Ariana Grande concert as a symbol of western decadence and unholy to his religion.
It’s correct to question that we brought this cretin and his family in as refugees and this is how they repaid the country that looked after them.
The tweet does presume, I’ll agree with that. She is at least trying to deflect to direct questions though.Guff or not, there's nothing offensive about what she said on that. As for the tweeter claiming what the tweet claimed, that's bollocks - they were the ones trying to put words in her mouth ffs!
I'll also add that the reason the conversation gets muddled is that that is a deliberate attempt to stitch her up, and they failed miserably
I don't think you can draw the conclusion that she's deflecting from such a short clip to be honestThe tweet does presume, I’ll agree with that. She is at least trying to deflect to direct questions though.
I agree completely with your middle paragraph by the way.You've centred into a very minor part of my point about Goodwin, but it wasn't just one comment that made me feel he dislikes this area, it's the way he spoke of his visits to the consitunency as well as the comment about being "unfortunate enough, to be in Manchester a few days ago". I've seen the full quote, and you may read it differently to me, but he didn't specify the conference, he specified Manchester.
He was born in this country to refugee parents, and was radicalised by evil islamic extremists. This is something the police were aware of before him and his brother commited the vile act of terror that they did. There needs to be a way of the police acting on the information they have before these thigns happen, whether through outreach and deradicalisation or further investigation, this should be the case for all forms of violent extremism. The immigration process needs to be reformed, badly, but this is a case which couldn't have been stopped by better immigration process, it could've been stopped by better deradicalisiation initiatives and counter-terrorism policing.
I don't like that the tragedy of the Manchester bombing is being used as a talking point to justify denying rights to those who seek refuge, instead of putting the focus onto how we make sure we can protect people who grow up in this country from falling victim to violent extremist groups.
I appreciate the discussion mate, thanks for taking the time to reply to me. We both want the best for the UK & Manchester
He stayed briefly and he's clearly tried to shoe horn any vague connection to manchester in there. For example, him claiming he delivered food from salford to gorton? Bullshit. Why would you order from salford if you were in gorton? He's just a political hack from GBNews who farage picked out to run for the seat. He's childish (see him pretending to eat his own book) and a racist. The last fucking thing we need round us. He won't give 2 shits about our area, he'll be exactly like Farage in Clackton. Never there.I agree completely with your middle paragraph by the way.
I would say that it should be used as a talking point to improving our policies and preventing further atrocities though. Not in the way of discarding all refugees but we need to make lots of big changes, probably too much for what I’ve got time for today.
This was Goodwin’s quote:
“I was lucky enough, or unfortunate enough, to be in Manchester a few days ago and the energy in this room is 10 times what it was in Manchester, so congratulations.”
It was specially in the context of the Tory conference being a drab affair.
Goodwin lived in Manchester for years, staying after university and has lots of family connections to the city.
He went to university in Salford and then stayed post uni, living in Castlefield. So it wasn’t “briefly” it was several years, possibly 6 years with a break in between when he did a post grad at Bath.His parents and grandparents lived and worked in Manchester too.He stayed briefly and he's clearly tried to shoe horn any vague connection to manchester in there. For example, him claiming he delivered food from salford to gorton? Bullshit. Why would you order from salford if you were in gorton? He's just a political hack from GBNews who farage picked out to run for the seat. He's childish (see him pretending to eat his own book) and a racist. The last fucking thing we need round us. He won't give 2 shits about our area, he'll be exactly like Farage in Clackton. Never there.
It was briefly.He went to university in Salford and then stayed post uni, living in Castlefield. So it wasn’t “briefly” it was several years, possibly 6 years with a break in between when he did a post grad at Bath.His parents and grandparents lived and worked in Manchester too.
Ultimately people standing together singing DLBIA probably did do fuck all. What else could people really do though other than stand together and try to pay their respects to the victims? I suppose the alternative was do what these racists divs from Reform want! I know which choice i prefer.The conversation gets a bit muddled, she’s either saying it’s people on the right who are causing people to turn to extremism, which is insane, or she’s making that as a general point to deflect. Either way she looks poor.
This whole “we came together” stuff is guff as far as I’m concerned, we witnessed innocent Mancunians get stabbed to death outside a synagogue recently. It doesn’t go away because you’ve sang don’t look back in anger.
What do reform want to do? Genuine question, I don’t actually know, I know what I’d do.Ultimately people standing together singing DLBIA probably did do fuck all. What else could people really do though other than stand together and try to pay their respects to the victims? I suppose the alternative was do what these racists divs from Reform want! I know which choice i prefer.
Feather their own nests and take the country back in time?What do reform want to do? Genuine question, I don’t actually know, I know what I’d do.
I want to take it back in time. But the 90s or 00s will do. Maybe not from a City point of view thoughFeather their own nests and take the country back in time?
Its true, just google it.. anti isreal activists connected to the greens been knocking on people's doors asking if they support zionistsAccording to the Trump loving @tolmie's hairdoo via X.
"The Greens are knocking on doors like the Gestapo and making 'lists'."
Cuckoo.