Ashleymcduff
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Don’t know if you watched much football these last 2 years but the league is shite . We’ve been gash and still in a title race .
2018-2023 city would be 15 clear of this Arsenal team already .
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Don’t know if you watched much football these last 2 years but the league is shite . We’ve been gash and still in a title race .
2018-2023 city would be 15 clear of this Arsenal team already .
Don’t know if you watched much football these last 2 years but the league is shite . We’ve been gash and still in a title race .
2018-2023 city would be 15 clear of this Arsenal team already .
The only thing that is gash here is your reasoning.
burnley blue mcfc
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22nd of march will have a huge psychological impact on which ever of us wins the league, so hope it’s us
citytill1die84
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Battered us? LolAnfield aside we’ve been dreadful nearly every second half of every game . We won’t last the distant . We are flagging , last night they battered us second half
citytill1die84
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It's not 2018-2023 City though they've aged and gone it's a new City in a transition and still managing to compete on all 4 fronts.Don’t know if you watched much football these last 2 years but the league is shite . We’ve been gash and still in a title race .
2018-2023 city would be 15 clear of this Arsenal team already .
But we took 6pts off the current champions , and didnt we lose to Brentford twice and still win the title ?Arsenal win it by 5-7 pts im afraid , we’ve been average at best .
2 pts out of 12 from Brighton and spurs tells me all I need to know
gordondaviesmoustache
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Yeah I’ve watched a bit.Don’t know if you watched much football these last 2 years but the league is shite . We’ve been gash and still in a title race .
2018-2023 city would be 15 clear of this Arsenal team already .
You know to be 15 points up on Arsenal we’d need to have won 25, drawn 1 and lost 1 of our 27 games!
noseve
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I honestly don't think that it will - there's absolutely no reason that any coach or player with the correct mindset will see that as anything other than a one-off.22nd of march will have a huge psychological impact on which ever of us wins the league, so hope it’s us
We beat Wolves - they didn't. So?
We didn't beat Spurs - they did. So?
Anybody letting a Cup Final either buoy or deflate their confidence for a nip-and-tuck title race like this just isn't made of the right stuff to win it.
Just my opinion, obviously - but why do you think that it will?
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49% of all people are below average intelligence.In what world is five points off the title average at best?
johnnytapia
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I’m glad you don’t work in my local chippy.Anfield aside we’ve been dreadful nearly every second half of every game . We won’t last the distant . We are flagging , last night they battered us second half
15 to go:
Arsenal - 45 points City - 41 points Villa - 41 points Kairat (H) - CL - 28th Jan Galatasaray (H) - CL - 28th Jan RB Salzburg (H) - EL - 29th Jan Leeds (A) - 31st Jan Spurs (A) - 1st Feb Brentford (H) - 1st Feb Chelsea (H) - LC - 3rd Feb (3-2) Newcastle (H) - LC - 4th Feb (2-0) Sunderland (H) - 7th Feb Liverpool (A) - 8th Feb Bournemouth (A) - 7th Feb Brentford (A) - 12th Feb Fulham (H) - 11th Feb Brighton (H) - 11th Feb Wigan (H) - FAC - 15th Feb Salford (H) - FAC - 14th Feb Newcastle (H) - FAC - 14th Feb CL Playoff 1st leg - 17th/18th Feb Spurs (A) - 22nd Feb Newcastle (H) - 21st Feb Leeds (H) - 21st Feb CL Playoff 2nd leg - 24th/25th Feb Chelsea (H) - 1st Mar Leeds (A) - 28th Feb Wolves (A) - 27th Feb Brighton (A) - 4th Mar Forest (H) - 4th Mar Chelsea (H) - 4th Mar FA Cup 5th Ro - 7th Mar FA Cup 5th Ro - 7th Mar FA Cup 5th Ro - 7th Mar CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar EL Ro16 1st leg -12th Mar Everton (H) - 15th Mar West Ham (A) - 14th Mar United (A) - 14th Mar CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar EL Ro16 2nd leg - 19th Mar Wolves (A) - 21st Mar* Palace (H) - 21st Mar* West Ham (H) - 21st Mar* LC Final - 22nd Mar LC Final - 22nd Mar FA Cup QF - 4th Apr FA Cup QF - 4th Apr FA Cup QF - 4th Apr CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr EL QF 1st leg - 9th Apr Bournemouth (H) - 11th Apr* Chelsea (A) - 11th Apr* Forest (A) - 11th Apr* CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr EL QF 2nd leg - 16th Apr City (A) - 18th Apr* Arsenal (H) - 18th Apr* Sunderland (H) - 18th Apr* Newcastle (H) - 25th Apr* Burnley (A) - 25th Apr* Fulham (A) - 25th Apr* FA Cup SF - 25th Apr FA Cup SF - 25th Apr FA Cup SF - 25th Apr CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr EL SF 1st leg - 30th Apr Fulham (H) - 2nd May* Everton (A) - 2nd May* Spurs (H) - 2nd May* CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May EL SF 2nd leg - 7th May West Ham (A) - 9th May* Brentford (H) - 9th May* Burnley (A) - 9th May* FA Cup Final - 16th May FA Cup Final - 16th May FA Cup Final - 16th May Burnley (H) - 17th May* Bournemouth (A) - 17th May* Liverpool (H) - 17th May* EL Final - 20th May Palace (A) - 24th May Villa (H) - 24th May City (A) - 24th May CL Final - 30th May CL Final - 30th May
*Date may change.
Potentially more cup games than league games left, it'll be some season if that pans out. The colour coding doesn't really mean much because all 3 teams have dropped unexpected points in the last few weeks, it's a rough guide.
The next 2 league games are so important for us, just need to stay in touch.
13 to go:
Arsenal - 56 points City - 50 points Villa - 47 points Kairat (H) - CL - 28th JanGalatasaray (H) - CL - 28th JanRB Salzburg (H) - EL - 29th JanLeeds (A) - 31st JanSpurs (A) - 1st FebBrentford (H) - 1st FebChelsea (H) - LC - 3rd Feb (3-2)Newcastle (H) - LC - 4th Feb (2-0)Sunderland (H) - 7th FebLiverpool (A) - 8th FebBournemouth (A) - 7th FebBrentford (A) - 12th Feb Fulham (H) - 11th Feb Brighton (H) - 11th Feb Wigan (H) - FAC - 15th Feb Salford (H) - FAC - 14th Feb Newcastle (H) - FAC - 14th Feb Wolves (A) - 18th Feb CL Playoff 1st leg - 17th/18th FebSpurs (A) - 22nd Feb Newcastle (H) - 21st Feb Leeds (H) - 21st Feb CL Playoff 2nd leg - 24th/25th FebChelsea (H) - 1st Mar Leeds (A) - 28th Feb Wolves (A) - 27th Feb Brighton (A) - 4th Mar Forest (H) - 4th Mar Chelsea (H) - 4th Mar FA Cup 5th Ro - 7th Mar FA Cup 5th Ro - 7th Mar FA Cup 5th Ro - 7th Mar CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar EL Ro16 1st leg -12th Mar Everton (H) - 15th Mar West Ham (A) - 14th Mar United (A) - 14th Mar CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar EL Ro16 2nd leg - 19th Mar Wolves (A) - 21st Mar*Palace (H) - 21st Mar* West Ham (H) - 21st Mar* City (N) - LC Final - 22nd Mar Arsenal (N) - LC Final - 22nd Mar FA Cup QF - 4th Apr FA Cup QF - 4th Apr FA Cup QF - 4th Apr CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr EL QF 1st leg - 9th Apr Bournemouth (H) - 11th Apr* Chelsea (A) - 11th Apr* Forest (A) - 11th Apr* CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr EL QF 2nd leg - 16th Apr City (A) - 18th Apr* Arsenal (H) - 18th Apr* Sunderland (H) - 18th Apr* Newcastle (H) - 25th Apr* Burnley (A) - 25th Apr* Fulham (A) - 25th Apr* FA Cup SF - 25th Apr FA Cup SF - 25th Apr FA Cup SF - 25th Apr CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr EL SF 1st leg - 30th Apr Fulham (H) - 2nd May* Everton (A) - 2nd May* Spurs (H) - 2nd May* CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May EL SF 2nd leg - 7th May West Ham (A) - 9th May* Brentford (H) - 9th May* Burnley (A) - 9th May* FA Cup Final - 16th May FA Cup Final - 16th May FA Cup Final - 16th May Burnley (H) - 17th May* Bournemouth (A) - 17th May* Liverpool (H) - 17th May* EL Final - 20th May Palace (A) - 24th May Villa (H) - 24th May City (A) - 24th May CL Final - 30th May CL Final - 30th May
2 league games since last update, important notes:
- 2 extra CL games avoided for City.
- 2 points dropped for City but 2 hard games ticked off.
- 5 points dropped for Villa and some significant injuries.
- Arsenal's game v Wolves (A) has moved from March 21st to Feb 18th because of the League Cup Final. So they'll be ahead 1 game for a while. Unfortunately we were due to play one of the 3 English sides in a European playoff, so our game v Palace can't move to the same mid-week!
I said it was doable if we were within 6 after Liverpool...well we are, so here we go.
I'll add another caveat now. I think we need 15 points from our next 15, 13 probably still acceptable but we need to land another big punch, like the Anfield result and I think we need to be in a position to get 1st when we play them at the Etihad. They have a kind run of games to finish the season, we don't:
Arsenal City Brentford (A) Fulham (H) Wolves (A) Spurs (A) Newcastle (H) Chelsea (H) Leeds (A) Brighton (A) Forest (H) Everton (H) West Ham (A)
I think on their day Newcastle and Leeds can be tricky, although we have a great record against Newcastle.
If they get 18/18 in the same time period, you just have to say fair play.
Update
12 to go:
Arsenal - 57 points City - 53 points Villa - 50 points Kairat (H) - CL - 28th JanGalatasaray (H) - CL - 28th JanRB Salzburg (H) - EL - 29th JanLeeds (A) - 31st JanSpurs (A) - 1st FebBrentford (H) - 1st FebChelsea (H) - LC - 3rd Feb (3-2)Newcastle (H) - LC - 4th Feb (2-0)Sunderland (H) - 7th FebLiverpool (A) - 8th FebBournemouth (A) - 7th FebBrentford (A) - 12th FebFulham (H) - 11th FebBrighton (H) - 11th FebWigan (H) - FAC - 15th Feb Salford (H) - FAC - 14th Feb Newcastle (H) - FAC - 14th Feb Wolves (A) - 18th Feb CL Playoff 1st leg - 17th/18th FebSpurs (A) - 22nd Feb Newcastle (H) - 21st Feb Leeds (H) - 21st Feb CL Playoff 2nd leg - 24th/25th FebChelsea (H) - 1st Mar Leeds (A) - 28th Feb Wolves (A) - 27th Feb Brighton (A) - 4th Mar Forest (H) - 4th Mar Chelsea (H) - 4th Mar FA Cup 5th Ro - 7th Mar FA Cup 5th Ro - 7th Mar FA Cup 5th Ro - 7th Mar CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar EL Ro16 1st leg -12th Mar Everton (H) - 15th Mar West Ham (A) - 14th Mar United (A) - 14th Mar CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar EL Ro16 2nd leg - 19th Mar Wolves (A) - 21st Mar*Palace (H) - 21st Mar* West Ham (H) - 21st Mar* City (N) - LC Final - 22nd Mar Arsenal (N) - LC Final - 22nd Mar FA Cup QF - 4th Apr FA Cup QF - 4th Apr FA Cup QF - 4th Apr CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr EL QF 1st leg - 9th Apr Bournemouth (H) - 11th Apr* Chelsea (A) - 11th Apr* Forest (A) - 11th Apr* CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr EL QF 2nd leg - 16th Apr City (A) - 18th Apr* Arsenal (H) - 18th Apr* Sunderland (H) - 18th Apr* Newcastle (H) - 25th Apr* Burnley (A) - 25th Apr* Fulham (A) - 25th Apr* FA Cup SF - 25th Apr FA Cup SF - 25th Apr FA Cup SF - 25th Apr CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr EL SF 1st leg - 30th Apr Fulham (H) - 2nd May* Everton (A) - 2nd May* Spurs (H) - 2nd May* CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May EL SF 2nd leg - 7th May West Ham (A) - 9th May* Brentford (H) - 9th May* Burnley (A) - 9th May* FA Cup Final - 16th May FA Cup Final - 16th May FA Cup Final - 16th May Burnley (H) - 17th May* Bournemouth (A) - 17th May* Liverpool (H) - 17th May* EL Final - 20th May Palace (A) - 24th May Villa (H) - 24th May City (A) - 24th May CL Final - 30th May CL Final - 30th May
3 points for City and Villa, Arsenal slip up.
Nice FA Cup break before Arsenal play their extra game that got moved for the LC Final.
All eyes on the new Spurs manager, if they don't want that lot to win it, they need to show up a week on Sunday.
11/10 to go:
| Arsenal - 61 points - 28 games | City - 56 points - 27 games | Villa - 51 points - 27 games |
| Chelsea (H) - 1st Mar | Leeds (A) - 28th Feb | Wolves (A) - 27th Feb |
| Brighton (A) - 4th Mar | Forest (H) - 4th Mar | Chelsea (H) - 4th Mar |
| Mansfield (A) - FAC - 7th Mar | Newcastle (A) - FAC - 7th Mar | |
| CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar | CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar | EL Ro16 1st leg -12th Mar |
| Everton (H) - 15th Mar | West Ham (A) - 14th Mar | United (A) - 14th Mar |
| CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar | CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar | EL Ro16 2nd leg - 19th Mar |
| Palace (H) - 21st Mar* | West Ham (H) - 21st Mar* | |
| City (N) - LC Final - 22nd Mar | Arsenal (N) - LC Final - 22nd Mar | |
| FA Cup QF - 4th Apr | FA Cup QF - 4th Apr | |
| CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr | CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr | EL QF 1st leg - 9th Apr |
| Bournemouth (H) - 11th Apr* | Chelsea (A) - 11th Apr* | Forest (A) - 11th Apr* |
| CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr | CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr | EL QF 2nd leg - 16th Apr |
| City (A) - 18th Apr* | Arsenal (H) - 18th Apr* | Sunderland (H) - 18th Apr* |
| Newcastle (H) - 25th Apr* | Burnley (A) - 25th Apr* | Fulham (A) - 25th Apr* |
| FA Cup SF - 25th Apr | FA Cup SF - 25th Apr | |
| CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr | CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr | EL SF 1st leg - 30th Apr |
| Fulham (H) - 2nd May* | Everton (A) - 2nd May* | Spurs (H) - 2nd May* |
| CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May | CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May | EL SF 2nd leg - 7th May |
| West Ham (A) - 9th May* | Brentford (H) - 9th May* | Burnley (A) - 9th May* |
| FA Cup Final - 16th May | FA Cup Final - 16th May | |
| Burnley (H) - 17th May* | Bournemouth (A) - 17th May* | Liverpool (H) - 17th May* |
| EL Final - 20th May | ||
| Palace (A) - 24th May | Villa (H) - 24th May | City (A) - 24th May |
| CL Final - 30th May | CL Final - 30th May |
Quoted my old post so the progression is nice to see. Leaving Villa in as I can't be arsed changing it now.
Changes:
- City close the gap on Arsenal by 2 points, after another week in which they slip up.
- Both teams progress in the FA Cup, City getting one of the hardest draws, Arsenal get the easiest.
- City look likely to face Real Madrid or Bodo/Glimt in the next round of the Champions League.
- Arsenal look likely to face Leverkusen or Dortmund.
- Villa pretty much out of the conversation.
Big 10 days ahead, I think optimistically we'll be hoping to close the gap again with 2 comparatively easier fixtures. City play Saturday, Arsenal play Sunday. We not only play first but we avoid a midweek away game which I think can always be a bit dicey.
steviemc
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We might not currently have players that have the consistency of our previous title winners, however we're certainly no worse off than the gooners. Their players also have no consistency at winning the PL title (at least not for the last 22 years). ;-)I think it is a season to early for us, we haven't yet established the consistency that our previous winners had. It takes a while for new players to pick up Pep"'s system as Guehi has admitted and he is England's first choice centre back. A fully fit Rodri plus another couple of additions in the summer and it will be back to the only team that can stop City is City. Still think that we will run the Gooners close though.
Arsenal win it by 5-7 pts im afraid , we’ve been average at best .
2 pts out of 12 from Brighton and spurs tells me all I need to know
Comparing points to Arsenal across the season is almost irrelevant in painting a picture.
We beat Liverpool and Arsenal went on to draw to Brentford and Wolves. I genuinely believe they wouldn't have done that had we lost at Anfield.
And it works both ways, we got battered off United and a half arsed Arsenal showed up at Forest the next day and drew.
It's in both of our hands, we have relatively comparable fixture lists from here on out but what the other team does will start to influence how the other team performs.
Battered us? Lol
Battered us 0-0.
I think the difference is that this version of Pep's City is more direct and far less possession based, and we've been spoiled by many years of controlling most games. Some people are overreacting to that.
I'm just pleased we're even competing cos earlier in the season I thought there's no chance we're gonna be in a title race.
steviemc
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Is that nationwide - or are we taking the mean strictly from the matchday forum?49% of all people are below average intelligence.
I'll get me coat.
Saddleworth2
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They didn’t. They hardly had a chance albeit they had as much possession. We had at least three better chances than they did in the second half.Anfield aside we’ve been dreadful nearly every second half of every game . We won’t last the distant . We are flagging , last night they battered us second half
Unlike many fans and social media Pep wouldn't have been looking at a London derby with Spurs as the opposition as the day the tide turned and we gained a significant advantage. The Arsenal fans, team and manager will have though. And that might just be the difference that actually gives us an edge.
A quick glance and in laymans terms based on watching footy for nearly 50 years,11/10 to go:
Arsenal - 61 points - 28 games City - 56 points - 27 games Villa - 51 points - 27 games Kairat (H) - CL - 28th JanGalatasaray (H) - CL - 28th JanRB Salzburg (H) - EL - 29th JanLeeds (A) - 31st JanSpurs (A) - 1st FebBrentford (H) - 1st FebChelsea (H) - LC - 3rd Feb (3-2)Newcastle (H) - LC - 4th Feb (2-0)Sunderland (H) - 7th FebLiverpool (A) - 8th FebBournemouth (A) - 7th FebBrentford (A) - 12th FebFulham (H) - 11th FebBrighton (H) - 11th FebWigan (H) - FAC - 15th FebSalford (H) - FAC - 14th FebNewcastle (H) - FAC - 14th FebWolves (A) - 18th FebCL Playoff 1st leg - 17th/18th FebSpurs (A) - 22nd FebNewcastle (H) - 21st FebLeeds (H) - 21st FebCL Playoff 2nd leg - 24th/25th FebChelsea (H) - 1st Mar Leeds (A) - 28th Feb Wolves (A) - 27th Feb Brighton (A) - 4th Mar Forest (H) - 4th Mar Chelsea (H) - 4th Mar Mansfield (A) - FAC - 7th Mar Newcastle (A) - FAC - 7th Mar CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar CL Ro16 1st leg - 10th/11th Mar EL Ro16 1st leg -12th Mar Everton (H) - 15th Mar West Ham (A) - 14th Mar United (A) - 14th Mar CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar CL Ro16 2nd leg - 17th/18th Mar EL Ro16 2nd leg - 19th Mar Wolves (A) - 21st Mar*Palace (H) - 21st Mar* West Ham (H) - 21st Mar* City (N) - LC Final - 22nd Mar Arsenal (N) - LC Final - 22nd Mar FA Cup QF - 4th Apr FA Cup QF - 4th Apr CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr CL QF 1st leg - 7th/8th Apr EL QF 1st leg - 9th Apr Bournemouth (H) - 11th Apr* Chelsea (A) - 11th Apr* Forest (A) - 11th Apr* CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr CL QF 2nd leg - 14th/15th Apr EL QF 2nd leg - 16th Apr City (A) - 18th Apr* Arsenal (H) - 18th Apr* Sunderland (H) - 18th Apr* Newcastle (H) - 25th Apr* Burnley (A) - 25th Apr* Fulham (A) - 25th Apr* FA Cup SF - 25th Apr FA Cup SF - 25th Apr CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr CL SF 1st leg - 28th/29th Apr EL SF 1st leg - 30th Apr Fulham (H) - 2nd May* Everton (A) - 2nd May* Spurs (H) - 2nd May* CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May CL SF 2nd leg - 5th/6th May EL SF 2nd leg - 7th May West Ham (A) - 9th May* Brentford (H) - 9th May* Burnley (A) - 9th May* FA Cup Final - 16th May FA Cup Final - 16th May Burnley (H) - 17th May* Bournemouth (A) - 17th May* Liverpool (H) - 17th May* EL Final - 20th May Palace (A) - 24th May Villa (H) - 24th May City (A) - 24th May CL Final - 30th May CL Final - 30th May
Quoted my old post so the progression is nice to see. Leaving Villa in as I can't be arsed changing it now.
Changes:
- City close the gap on Arsenal by 2 points, after another week in which they slip up.
- Both teams progress in the FA Cup, City getting one of the hardest draws, Arsenal get the easiest.
- City look likely to face Real Madrid or Bodo/Glimt in the next round of the Champions League.
- Arsenal look likely to face Leverkusen or Dortmund.
- Villa pretty much out of the conversation.
Big 10 days ahead, I think optimistically we'll will be hoping to close the gap again with 2 comparatively easier fixtures. City play Saturday, Arsenal play Sunday. We not only play first but we avoid a midweek away game which I think can always be a bit dicey.
They have more tougher matchweek fixtures than us,* a lot more actually.
(*Imo, their game is harder than ours on a matchweek)
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citytill1die84
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Chuckle Neville believes Arsenal will beat us at our place.