7 | Omar Marmoush - 2025/26

Manc in London said:
What do you mean by "yall cry"? When did this happen?

I also said "more comfortable". We have other goal threats. What's your solution?
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Who are they? They only need to guard Haaland and then that’s it. Haaland also looks much more lively thanks to other threats next to him.
 
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King Jay said:
Who are they? They only need to guard Haaland and then that’s it. Haaland also looks much more lively thanks to other threats next to him.
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Guard? What does that mean? lol Have you got the right sport?

Foden and Semenyo have scored 20 goals in the PL this season.

Marmoush has a scoring rate of 1 every 6 games for City this season. We are not missing lots of goals if he plays off the bench more than he starts.
 
Manc in London said:
Guard? What does that mean? lol Have you got the right sport?

Foden and Semenyo have scored 20 goals in the PL this season.

Marmoush has a scoring rate of 1 every 6 games for City this season. We are not missing lots of goals if he plays off the bench more than he starts.
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Marmoush was injured for months and has just come back healthy after AFCON.

Basically missed half a season.
 
He's been playing an interesting role lately. It seems like he and O'Reilly have been tasked with exploiting the spaces left by a deeper Haaland

I think he'll rotate with Doku when Doku is available, with Semenyo taking on the Marmoush role and Doku taking the Semenyo role

I say rotate because I feel like Pep likes Semenyo playing on the right due his two footedness, so Marmoush might be better placed to act as a foil for Haaland. But of course, there'll be games Doku has to play in

Importantly, with Marmoush and Semenyo, we have players who know how to score who can make the most of a deeper Haaland
 
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Manc in London said:
There are other players I would prefer to start games who are more impactful
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My guess is these 'more impactful' players do more only in some respects but are lacking in others. Cherki and Foden lack physicality and pace. Foden runs a lot but with less intensity than Marmoush. Cherki is less impactfull off the ball. Trade-offs.

I think Doku starts ahead of Marmoush if on form. He offers more physicality and pace than Cherki and Foden and is more creative than Marmoush. But it's a nice conundrum to have. Depends on temporary form and tactical considerations.
 
Omar's a strange one - when we bought him I loved the idea of a 2-pronged attack and his busy, high-tempo approach was a breath of fresh air compared to what we'd been seeing virtually throughout the rest of the playing squad at the time.

Even now, I see real potential there and if he went to another team where he was the main man I could see him scoring a hatful.

But he hasn't exactly grabbed the chances he's been given by the scruff of the neck - even so, his PL minutes add up to fewer than 5 matches' worth and he's still chipped in with 3 goal involvements, so nothing to be particularly ashamed about, compared to several of our other forwards.

I think that he's destined to be one of those players that City just don't know how to use properly.
 
alexmcity said:
My guess is these 'more impactful' players do more only in some respects but are lacking in others. Cherki and Foden lack physicality and pace. Foden runs a lot but with less intensity than Marmoush. Cherki is less impactfull off the ball. Trade-offs.

I think Doku starts ahead of Marmoush if on form. He offers more physicality and pace than Cherki and Foden and is more creative than Marmoush. But it's a nice conundrum to have. Depends on temporary form and tactical considerations.
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Fair. Although I would suggest that some simply add more overall to the team and are a better fit. I just cannot see him working out here. May be he would be better for a team who is afford much more space with the ball and not having to play against defences that sit so deep.
 
Manc in London said:
Fair. Although I would suggest that some simply add more overall to the team and are a better fit. I just cannot see him working out here. May be he would be better for a team who is afford much more space with the ball and not having to play against defences that sit so deep.
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It's hard to say that others offer more: the trade-offs concerning productivity, rate-work, physicality, mentality, etc. are not easy to calculate.

I don't think Pep makes a mistake to start Marmoush over other players, but even he might hesitate whether it's better to play, say, Cherki instead of Marmoush. As long as we win, it's hard to argue against his line-ups.
 
He's got 6 G/A in 895 mins this season. A goal contribution every other game, every 149 minutes. Shame he doesn't get more time. Last season he got 11 G/A in 1555 mins for City. A contribution every 141 minutes. Has averaged a goal contribution every 145 minutes in his time here.

Last season Haaland played 4045 minutes for City. Divided by Marmoush's record of a contribution every 145 minutes, that's roughly 28 G/A across an entire season. 20 goals and 8 assists, roughly. That's a cracking record for a winger who'd be rotated with Doku and the like. I want him to stick around.
 
I can't make Moush out tbh. He causes chaos (in a good way!) on the pitch. Lively, finds space, etc. But his basic technique seems un-city like (control, picking a pass) and his decision making is sometimes off. But when he's on the pitch he causes problems. Good squad player IMHO and when he had to deputise for Erl last winter/spring he let no-one down
 
alexmcity said:
It's hard to say that others offer more: the trade-offs concerning productivity, rate-work, physicality, mentality, etc. are not easy to calculate.

I don't think Pep makes a mistake to start Marmoush over other players, but even he might hesitate whether it's better to play, say, Cherki instead of Marmoush. As long as we win, it's hard to argue against his line-ups.
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Sometimes, you can trust your eyes. I like to think I do not have bias towards any particular player. I watch Marmoush and I just feel we are usually not as good with him than we are with the likes of Doku. Judging by this thread, I am certainly not unique in claiming this. Not saying he is a bad player, although his poor quality first touch irritates the hell out of me
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
I can't make Moush out tbh. He causes chaos (in a good way!) on the pitch. Lively, finds space, etc. But his basic technique seems un-city like (control, picking a pass) and his decision making is sometimes off. But when he's on the pitch he causes problems. Good squad player IMHO and when he had to deputise for Erl last winter/spring he let no-one down
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The more I watch him, he comes off more of a poacher/finisher than the more rounded forward I expected him to be. His movement, positioning and finishing are great, but you're right that he's underwhelming in what you would expect from a City forward leading up to the shot. He's great when there's space around him or we're charging at the back line in transition, but he's just not effective in most situations in the final third since other teams get so compact.
 
Manc in London said:
Sometimes, you can trust your eyes. I like to think I do not have bias towards any particular player. I watch Marmoush and I just feel we are usually not as good with him than we are with the likes of Doku. Judging by this thread, I am certainly not unique in claiming this. Not saying he is a bad player, although his poor quality first touch irritates the hell out of me
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Been here over a year and yet to score a away goal in prem, not good enough for a top team. At his age he's not a project, be lucky to get 1/2 the money spent back.
 
both Marmoush and Reijnders are 27 (the former just, the latter 28 in July), and should come with some experience. The renowned and proven time it takes for many players to settle in a Pep team (no, not all!) gives them a fair bit of grace but they do currently both feel like odd fits.

I can see how they might be very beneficial, with their ball carrying and productive output, but at the moment they are missing something. Fingers crossed they can grow as the season comes towards the end.
 
Lkzerinho said:
I think this is spot on, and, granted, I have been more critical of Marmoush than of most players, but my issue isn't that I don't think he's a good player. My issue is more about what we paid and what we are paying and what we could've done with it, because what we have gotten for what we paid has not been good enough.

I think we bought him on the theory that he could play out on the left and provide cover for Erling. In theory, this was a good idea, especially because we had no threat of the wings at all last year. But at this point, we are a year into his time here, and it's pretty clear he can't play off the left in our system. I think he's fine as a guy to cover for Erling. But the problem becomes the same one we had with Grealish (albeit for different reasons). He's on almost 300K a week. For that money, you need to be a lot better than just a backup; you need to be an integral part of the team. We can go back to the Gabriel Jesus/Julian Alvarez route to find a young up-and-coming South American Striker with some versatility and pay them 100K a week and have 200K a week left over to get an Elliot Anderson/Alex Scott/Adam Wharton.

I think he will be someone who is off in the summer, and I think he will have offers from big clubs in a place like Italy, with AC Milan, and maybe Germany at Dortmund, but that's about his level. He's a good player but not great.
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Could we have got more for our money?
Rags paid pretty much the same amount for cunha. I wouldn't say cunha is any better than marmoush.
 
You would hope Marmoush would learn something from a world class striker like Haaland , he is always being caught offside and he snatches at chances , two things that Haaland has mastered , hardly ever offside and although not perfect his conversion rate is incomparable with any other striker in the world.
 
If Marmoush was totally useless Pep wouldn't play him.. just like Kalvin.

Pep has figured out that he serves a purpose.. and his chaos drives opposing midfielders and defenders crazy.

Either they let him have his shot or they have to pay him attention and ease up on Haaland/ Semenyo/ Nico O'Reilly/ Cherki.

He might not be tearing up stats for stat counters but even a blind man can see.. he creates space for other players.. like Doku does.

Funny how the same people seem to whine about the same thing with both Doku and Marmoush.. LOL
 
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