Denton and Gorton by-election - Green Party wins

urban genie said:
Fantastic news, when do I get my free weed ;-)

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On a serious note, this is a result that should drive better politics hopefully

reform have been given a clear fuck off if they think they will walk into power and that not all are fallong fpr theor bullshit
Labour see now what a PR disaster their leadership teams is and that a tactic of copying the right wing to stop the right wing is both stupid and inefective.
Greens are empowered and hopefully become another viable optipn to the traditional 2 party system which reform were (and now restore) hoping to be the only other choice restore.

Congratulations Hannah, lets hope you serve us well
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Not sure this result alone damages Reform’s hopes of winning a GE. It’s clearly a very unusual seat with the ethnic and religious make-up differences over the 2 areas.

I think this just tells us that Labour can expect to lose seats to Greens in urban areas like Gorton; seats they would have expected to still win even under Reform surges elsewhere.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
Not sure this result alone damages Reform’s hopes of winning a GE. It’s clearly a very unusual seat with the ethnic and religious make-up differences over the 2 areas.

I think this just tells us that Labour can expect to lose seats to Greens in urban areas like Gorton; seats they would have expected to still win even under Reform surges elsewhere.
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63% of the gorton part are white british or white other
95% of the denton part are white british or white other

58% christian
19% muslim
21% no religion


The line that this was a win due to a block of asian muslims is bullshit, plenty white working class people, probably traditonally labour or lib dem chose greens also this time with the tories dropping over 2000 votes most likely to reform and some reports saying green had a very large share of the denton votes.

Framing it as sectarian and about Gaza as the likes of Coates at sky and refrom are is very insulting to the people of the area, myself included
 
urban genie said:
63% of the gorton part are white british or white other
95% of the denton part are white british or white other

58% christian
19% muslim
21% no religion


The line that this was a win due to a block of asian muslims is bullshit, plenty white working class people, probably traditonally labour or lib dem chose greens also this time with the tories dropping over 2000 votes most likely to reform and some reports saying green had a very large share of the denton votes.

Framing it as sectarian and about Gaza as the likes of Coates at sky and refrom are is very insulting to the people of the area, myself included
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I am saying this is an unusual seat and Reform won’t be losing too much sleep about not winning it….there are plenty of other much easier seats to take off Labour come election day.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
I am saying this is an unusual seat and Reform won’t be losing too much sleep about not winning it….there are plenty of other much easier seats to take off Labour come election day.
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Reform thought they had this at first, straight fight against labour and a win to bllody starmers nose lile runcorn , they never expected the green surge at the start of the campaign.

It will concern reform as they have convinced themselves the working class vote especialy white ones will turn to them over labour, this has shown that many will reject far right fear mongering in traditionally more left leaning areas
 
The Northern Baptist said:
I am saying this is an unusual seat and Reform won’t be losing too much sleep about not winning it….there are plenty of other much easier seats to take off Labour come election day.
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That’s true, but if the Greens remain the only party currently addressing the wealth divide and spotlighting elites, it will resonate with voters Reform has taken for granted.

It’s an interesting result and food for thought for all parties.
 
urban genie said:
63% of the gorton part are white british or white other
95% of the denton part are white british or white other

58% christian
19% muslim
21% no religion


The line that this was a win due to a block of asian muslims is bullshit, plenty white working class people, probably traditonally labour or lib dem chose greens also this time with the tories dropping over 2000 votes most likely to reform and some reports saying green had a very large share of the denton votes.

Framing it as sectarian and about Gaza as the likes of Coates at sky and refrom are is very insulting to the people of the area, myself included
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Are you using 2021 census data there? The “boris wave” changed that.

The green’s literally campaigned on “give Starmer a kick for Gaza”, which was shameful in my opinion, and released their recent campaign video in Urdu. All the polling showed white Brits were significantly coming out for Reform.

When we get to a general election, bordering seats, which are more white Brit, will be reform, that will be the evidence to prove you wrong.
 
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