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Denton and Gorton by-election - Green Party wins
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Bluesince1979
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Or a pulse full stopPretty clear people have had enough and want a change, but the change isn't going to be in the form of reform. Starmer grandstanding today about 'both extremes being as bad as each other', just reinforces that he doesn't have a pulse on the electorate at all.
Mad Eyed Screamer
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The Bard of Stretford once crooned “I’ve been dreaming of a time when, the English are sick to death of Labour & Tories….”I do agree, though, change is afoot, Labour and Tory are dead as a dodo and it’ll be more of a right vs left election in the future, for better or worse.
Maybe that time has finally arrived?
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The Bard of Stretford once crooned “I’ve been dreaming of a time when, the English are sick to death of Labour & Tories….”
Maybe that time has finally arrived?
Let's not be taking any political advice from Mozzer eh :-)
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law74
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I don't believe people travel thousands of miles for under £9 a week.Rather than Ad hominem attacks, answer this, do you think giving away what we do to migrants that cross illegally, encourages or discourages attempts to do so?
Answer it honestly rather than calling me names please.
The self servatives "immigration policy" was to have anyone who arrived here held in repurposed "hotel's" - holding center's owned by Tory members and or donor's whilst culling the number of staff available and trained to process the asylum hearings.The Tories immigration policy was the most left wing in history, especially under Boris.
Aba452
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Worth noting the farage fascist also coining it in from his pension asa very brief stint as an mep, as indeed is our medically retired former MP Gwynne. Noses meet trough of public funding.Farage singling out South Asian men for ‘family voting’ kinda shows where it’s starting to unravel for them in their approach. To be elected PM you have a broad church of 4 nations within the U.K. and also many different minorities who live here. Playing divisive politics can only get you so far if you want to be PM.
His brand of politics might work in Clacton on Sea but it doesn’t work in Manchester where people are a bit more savvy. I actually think he would shit the bed if he did get the nod to be Pm, his political career would be guaranteed to be over within the space of 5 years, it’s much better for his grift to shout from the sidelines to keep his gravy train going.
Division? Did you see how the Greens campaigned?
You mean with a main slogan of "Hope not hate"?
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law74
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Where are Irish Travellers from?Its been going on forever, that's how they lived in their previous countries. It's tribal, they live as one huge 'family', I know of one where I live and they have a 'Mister Big' in charge who dictates what they can and can't do. It's the complete opposite of how Western society works.
metalblue
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OK I have just taken out around 9 pages of stuff about immigrants, opera, Hovis bread and other nonsense.
There are other threads for those topics, please keep this one about Gorton / Denton election.
Thanks
You’re obviously new here
...or on his party...Pretty clear people have had enough and want a change, but the change isn't going to be in the form of reform. Starmer grandstanding today about 'both extremes being as bad as each other', just reinforces that he doesn't have a pulse on the electorate at all.
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Googling 'Mister Bigs in my area'... Will let you know what I find.
GOULDYBOBS
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And spit upon the name Oliver CrommmmmwelllllThe Bard of Stretford once crooned “I’ve been dreaming of a time when, the English are sick to death of Labour & Tories….”
Maybe that time has finally arrived?
bluethrunthru
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Googling 'Mister Bigs in my area'... Will let you know what I find.
Found him for ya
gordondaviesmoustache
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Reform moaning about voter fraud from Muslim voters must be predicated on the ridiculous notion that a single one of them would have voted for the cunts in the first place.
You mean with a main slogan of "Hope not hate"?
The lack of self awareness, holy moly. It was bad enough when we had British/Irish sectarianism within our politics, never mind bringing in a far more horrendous foreign war, from thousands of miles away, as a political football to be used here, insinuating blame at Labour’s door for it and making an election in fucking Gorton about Gaza.
Funny how they didn’t campaign on their LGBTQ support or legalising Prostitution in the migrant areas. There’s a lot of chatter online about how some Muslims, who were inspired to go out and vote yesterday, have now found out about the Green’s other policies and aren’t exactly happy with their choice. You’ll dismiss it as a publication but the Telegraph has interviewed a few this afternoon and a local shopkeeper is shocked at some of their other policies.
The lack of self awareness, holy moly. It was bad enough when we had British/Irish sectarianism within our politics, never mind bringing in a far more horrendous foreign war, from thousands of miles away, as a political football to be used here, insinuating blame at Labour’s door for it and making an election in fucking Gorton about Gaza.
Funny how they didn’t campaign on their LGBTQ support or legalising Prostitution in the migrant areas. There’s a lot of chatter online about how some Muslims, who were inspired to go out and vote yesterday, have now found out about the Green’s other policies and aren’t exactly happy with their choice. You’ll dismiss it as a publication but the Telegraph has interviewed a few this afternoon and a local shopkeeper is shocked at some of their other policies.
They aren't advocating Muslims above all others, although by being against them being killed in huge numbers in a genocide seems to make them bad guys in some people's eyes, yours seemingly included.
It used to be normal to not want wars and killing.
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The victory speech by Hannah Spencer was one of the best political speeches I've heard in a long time.
It was so refreshing to hear a working class voice speaking on behalf of her community.
What she said was absolutely correct. The transfer of wealth away from the working class to the rich is an abomination.
I for one agreed with every word she said.
It was so refreshing to hear a working class voice speaking on behalf of her community.
What she said was absolutely correct. The transfer of wealth away from the working class to the rich is an abomination.
I for one agreed with every word she said.
The Northern Baptist
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The victory speech by Hannah Spencer was one of the best political speeches I've heard in a long time.
It was so refreshing to hear a working class voice speaking on behalf of her community.
What she said was absolutely correct. The transfer of wealth away from the working class to the rich is an abomination.
I for one agreed with every word she said.
It was a great speech. That will reach people who haven’t had a voice in the right-wing dominated media. I’m not on the left and I will not be voting Green, but I can see why this type of politics will resonate for a lot of people.