US & Israel attack Iran

The Future’s Blue! said:
What, US planes taking off?

We’ve already stated that they cannot use our military bases to attack Iran, and that we won’t get involved because we see it as an illegal attack.

I’m not sure if people see what they want to see but we are not involved in this conflict. And rightly so.
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Like we weren't involved in gaza.
Maybe limited but still help
 
Oh this is one of those threads...

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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Sadly, as an American citizen, should this attack on Iran occur under any other president - Republican or Democrat - I'd support it, as the best course of action, at least insofar as intelligence can gleen. That's not to say, that, in hindsight, it was wrong.

And yet, under Trump, I'm left wondering, WTF is going on!?!? - for the first time in my life I don't trust any government agency whatsoever.

To this extent... WTF is going on, with this attack?!... is that Trump is attacking Iran to defect from the Epstein files, or to shit on Obama, or to pump up support for MAGA (although this shit is likely to do the opposite)... or is it in the best interest of the USA?
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No offence mate, but we often say over here that we sent our worst to Australia, but I disagree, our worst went to the New World, religious puritanical nutjobs and traitors… and it still shows today.

I will answer your question though, Iran is rubbing up against US interests in the Middle East and the US is doing what it always does when that happens, throwing its weight around without a second thought for the fallout or the lives of its own servicemen and allies.

I’d gladly see the Ayatollah get the Saddam treatment but it’s the wider repercussions that are a deep concern.

And given your Presidents treatment of NATO allies and his comments on British servicemen and servicewomen, you’re on your own now.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
When they are telling the world that those very expensive bunker busting bombs they dropped last Summer had obliterated Iran’s nuclear capability. Then all of a sudden they are saying that Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon, the messaging is as clear as mud.
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I do not Trust anything at all that is expressed under Trump.

That said, there was a line of thought that most of the super-enriched uranium - nearly weapons grade - was moved out of the enrichment facilities to other locations prior to the bombing. This seems possible and indeed likely to me.

That said... I don't fucking Trust whatever the fuck Trump is doing with regard to anything whatsoever. Because Trump's actions are based on whoever last spoke to him - even if 180 degrees opposite what he previously expressed - and anything that might negatively reflect on his popularity among his base is immediately rejected.
 
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give it to gordon said:
This will just be another, American fuck up. Go in all guns blazing killing loads of people.
Claim to have won pull out leaving the country in a fair worst place then it was before. Yanks never have a plan for after their actions. Go in kill some leader then leave, leaving chaos behind.
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Exactly this is the problem, zero planning for what happens after and the fallout.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
When they are telling the world that those very expensive bunker busting bombs they dropped last Summer had obliterated Iran’s nuclear capability. Then all of a sudden they are saying that Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon, the messaging is as clear as mud.
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Agree. It's all fucking bullshit politics under Trump.

IMO - I think that Iran knew that attacks on its facilities were imminent, and preemptively removed near fissile material to other locations. And there's a lot of evidence that this is what occurred... at least insofar as my reading of independent journalism.
 
I wonder if the Iranian leaders will use the nuclear material they have already on America and israael during this. They haave nothing to lose I would guess. Worrying times. I wonder if the doom clock does milliseconds
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
I do not Trust anything at all that is expressed under Trump.

That said, there was a line of thought that most of the super-enriched uranium - nearly weapons grade - was moved out of the enrichment facilities to other locations prior to the bombing. This seems possible and indeed likely to me.

That said... I don't fucking Trust whatever the fuck Trump is doing with regard to anything whatsoever. Because Trump's actions are based on whoever last spoke to him - even if 180 degrees opposite what he previously expressed - and anything that might negatively reflect on his popularity among his base is immediately regjected.
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It seems most Americans are sick to fuckin death of Netanyahu's bullshit. When even the horrible fucker Megyn Kelly has jumped ship and called it all out you know the Israelis are in trouble. Seems near enough every left & right podcasters with huge followers have had enough. With the exception of Ben Shapiro.
 
What a shitstorm this is getting into

There’s no point us risking our own for the sake of the two twiddles and their wanton for the next world war.

A new base close to Russia for the tweedle dee, and an expansion for the promised greater land for the tweedle dum.
 
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