i think a lot of those Arsenal players, and Arteta, are not doing their careers any favours. Playing for such a iimited team with such dinosaur tactics is ruining their reputations. For example Saka has gone backwards and so has Martinelli and Odegaard. There is no creativity in this Arsenal team at all. It is not, and never has been, about winning at all costs. Barcelona, Real Madrid, City, Liverpool, United, all had success and thrilled crowds playing with creativity and style. Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Matt Busby, Joe Mercer, Brian Clough, all knew that style was everything. I don't think David Silva or someone like Liam Brady would even get into this Arsenal team. I really don't understand why Arsenal fans are happy with Arteta. Stuart Pearce got us within a penalty kick of qualifying for Europe. The football he produced with City was a disgrace and our crowds fell below 40,000 for the only time in the modern era.