US & Israel attack Iran

Bazzmand Show said:
Appears to be linked to personal grievances and the psychotic nature between Bibi and Trump tbh. Pentagon has said that Iran posed no immediate threat.
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I thought it was when Irans leadership refused to discuss ceasing Uranium enrichment, don’t know about anyone else but i’d rather they didn’t have access to these sorts of weapons. Could wrong thought don’t have access to Trumps thinking or the late Iranian leaders either.
 
Scottyboi said:
America will be shocked at the response from Iran, Gulf states will be fuming they have been targeted so soon.
Everyone's been dragged into it by 2 countries making a plan between themselves under false pretences.
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They all joined Trump's Board of Peace. What did they expect?
 
Bazzmand Show said:
Ah yes, I wonder how the families of those 153 school children killed in a strike on the weekend are feeling.... They definitely wanted this to happen.
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Yes absolutely horrific and awful. The school itself was not targeted specifically. There was a naval base literally next door to the school which was targeted, a naval base that could be used to coordinate/attack the shipping lanes in the Strait of Hormuz. A naval base acting against ships operating in international waters is arguably a legitimate target.

The youngest victim of the protests in Iran was 17 and the Iranian government sanctioned her murder. In my mind these people are quite clearly very bad people who should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons and I have the exact same opinion of the Israeli government.

Let's not trade blows because neither of us can ever be right because none of this is right. The points that I have been making are simply because people seem to think Iran should be able to act with impunity, or kill its own people and we should all accept that apparently because of the actions of a completely different country (Israel).
 
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Gorton_Tubster said:
Would you rather have the dead tens of thousands that we are seeing now?

Do you like the misery that the millions of innocent Iranians are going to go through.....

Questions that are as pointless as yours. I am glad you have nothing else to say.
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We already have the tens of thousands dead, at the hands of Ayatollah Khamenei's regime, and it would have continued.

Apparently those lives lost don't seem to feature in the argument, nor does the continued suffering of the Iranian people. It's all about people dying now, after the event, for some reason that seems to rankle.
 
Military intervention must come with international agreements and the approval of Congress.
We now see The Pentagon stating that Iran posed no immediate threat.
It is clear that the US and Israel have attacked Iran without reason.
Many lives will be lost. Many countries will now become embroiled in a war that is not theirs.
I hope the international community comes together and condemns this action, and acts, to repair the damage and to sanction Israel and the US. 8bn global consumers could easily abandon the brands, products, and services of those countries in protest at this illegal intervention.

30,000 lost Iranian lives is not acceptable.
72,000 dead Gazans is not acceptable.
1,200 dead Israelis is not acceptable.
Hordes of lost Sudanese and Tibetans is not acceptable.
Why has there been no military intervention in to those nations?
Why is one nation allowed nuclear weapons and others are not?
Once we focus on humanity and forget religion, these actions look perverse.
 
Vic said:
Why not? They'd have deterred war surely. Isn't that how we justify having them?
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They’ve certainly deterred major conflicts between super powers, who are terrified to use them. If you're happy for Iran to have them who are led by people who believe better awaits them after being vaporised then good luck with that.
 
Gaz76 said:
According to sky news the Iranians have missiles that can reach Cyprus but I haven't seen anything about missiles that can reach the UK
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I was thinking the same thing. Can anyone confirm if Irans missiles can reach uk or did they mean overseas uk bases?
 
Metal Biker said:
We already have the tens of thousands dead, at the hands of Ayatollah Khamenei's regime, and it would have continued.

Apparently those lives lost don't seem to feature in the argument, nor does the continued suffering of the Iranian people. It's all about people dying now, after the event, for some reason that seems to rankle.
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We also have the death of tens of thousands in Gaza but this now seems to be brushed under the carpet as they start again in Iran only the weak will suffer
 
SWP's back said:
They didn’t have nuclear weapons. They weren’t even close and they agreed to just about everything in terms of “never, ever” trying to start up their own nuclear program in the talks over the past month according to the Omani Foreign Ministry that was mediating.

Stop believing everything Trump says and especially that horrible **** genocidal dictator Netanyahu who has been saying Iran are “months away” from a nuclear weapon for neigh in 20 years.
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Where do you get your info that they aren’t even close as far as I know they have a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium the only reason for that is weapons production, estimated before the attacks last year were weeks to months, admittedly it could be purely western propaganda. But Irans leadership are desperate to get their paws on the bomb it would naive in the extreme to think they aren’t.
 
Gaz76 said:
According to sky news the Iranians have missiles that can reach Cyprus but I haven't seen anything about missiles that can reach the UK
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This is very roughly the max range for Irans known missiles fired from the NW of the country. As said they could comfortable reach Cyprus with at least 2 of their missile types but the UK mainland is not at any risk.range .png

edit: I actually might be mistaken, apparently there are some additional non-military missile types I hadnt checked that could reach further, but dont know if they exist in reality. They have some more recently developed multi-stage SLVs they use for satellite launches which could be converted to ballistic missiles however these would almost certainly need to be launched from their space centres rather than mobile launchers due to their size, so would be unlikely to be able to launch them now.

For example, if they converted their Simorgh SLV into a ballistic missile, they could reach a range such as this if launched from Shahroud Space Centre.

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Gaz76 said:
According to sky news the Iranians have missiles that can reach Cyprus but I haven't seen anything about missiles that can reach the UK
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I hope the defences have been beefed up, and a destroyer is on the way. There will also come a time if the Iranians keep sending drones towards the RAF base that we will have to retaliate.
 
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