US & Israel attack Iran

robbieh said:
I am perfectly aware of Israel allowing the vote to all it's inhabitants. But I submit it has a responsibility to the people it is occupying.
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I agree. Doesn't change the fact that the original statement that was made that only Jews have the vote in Israel is incorrect. Which was what I was correcting for it's inaccuracy. Even Palestinian citizens living in Israel have the vote. Those living in occupied Palestine do not because the Israelis don't see them as 'Israeli citizens'.

But again this response has been about democracy and some believing Israel isn't one; it is. It just has a very obtuse and vile little cretin at the helm currently.
 
Damocles said:
While you're free to believe this, this just isn't the conclusions of the inspection agencies nor the experts in the field.

And taqiyya means concealing their faith from religious persecution, not lying about nuclear weapons. Stop being weird.
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In this context it is used as lying to the Infidel to protect their version of the Umma -which is their regime basically. These people have submitted wholeheartedly to Islam and there is nothing else for them.
 
Chak19 said:
Democracy for Jews only, the apartheid system against Palestinians is applied by every government and political party.
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Calling Israel ‘a democracy for Jews only’ ignores the fact that over 2 million non-Jewish citizens, mainly Arab Muslims, Christians and Druze vote, form political parties, and sit in parliament. That’s roughly 1 in 5 citizens.
 
The blue phantom said:
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No, Israel is not a democracy

More than 11 million people are denied the right to vote for the government that controls their territory.
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Israel doesn't consider the lands it's illegally occupying as part of Israel (yet), so those living there don't receive the right to vote in their elections. It's not hard.
 
I did find this quote from the press conference about an hour ago quite interesting from Rubio. The scale at which Iran could make those Shahed drones was worrying. They're cheap to make, easy to make and because of that you can send loads of them at your enemies. And as we've seen despite their low tech, some will get through (the RAF base in Cyprus, cities in Qatar, UAE etc)

“They’re attacking facilities that have nothing to do with war or with military, and that’s weakened Iran,” Rubio said. “That’s Iran despite years of sanctions. Imagine a year from now or a year and a half from now, the capabilities they would have to inflict damage on us.”
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Rubio says Iran would have been able to launch missiles, drones in a year and a half

Marco Rubio said Monday during a press briefing that the U.S. had to strike Iran because they would have been able to launch missiles in a year and a half.
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The below image was from a separate video* about the state of the Ukraine war after 4 years. It shows in the last year just how much Iran/Russia have ramped up the production of Shahed drones. If those numbers roughly correlate with Iran's production for their own means then you can see why they would have been worried.

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Snape said:
No country in the world gives voting rights to non-citizens outside its sovereign state. So the conclusion that Israel is ‘not a democracy’ is false.
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Israel considers the West Bank it's sovereign territory and gives only Jews living there full rights, Palestinians are under military rule, that's apartheid.
 
Snape said:
Calling Israel ‘a democracy for Jews only’ ignores the fact that over 2 million non-Jewish citizens, mainly Arab Muslims, Christians and Druze vote, form political parties, and sit in parliament. That’s roughly 1 in 5 citizens.
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Already answered that classic hasbara nonsense.
 
Snape said:
No country in the world gives voting rights to non-citizens outside its sovereign state. So the conclusion that Israel is ‘not a democracy’ is false.
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I would agree. It is a democracy that illegally occupies adjacent territory.
 
Well well, Rubio blaming Israel saying USA had to get involved as they knew Israel were going to attack Iran and their allies would suffer, least someone is telling the truth now.

Puts to bed the horse shit from Trump about it being to do with nuclear weapons or 'giving the Iranians a chance at peace'.

Old Benjamin is a fucking war criminal.
 
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