US & Israel attack Iran

Damocles said:
So, me being me, I read your source. Here's what they say:

Despite repeated accusations from Israel and often from the United States as well, up until the Twelve-Day War – the military confrontation between Israel and Iran in June 2025 – Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, had always blocked the final decision to move to 90% enrichment and to begin developing miniaturised nuclear warheads small enough to be deliverable. This was despite pressure from various quarters within the regime, above all the Revolutionary Guards. All the sources consulted by the author’s researchers over the years have always denied that any decision had been taken on this matter and, clearly, if Khamenei had intended to produce atomic bombs when, in 1992, Benjamin Netanyahu, then merely an MP, began accusing Iran of pursuing that goal, Iran’s bomb would have been with us for several years already.

Iran’s nuclear programme: where do things stand?​

With uranium enriched to 60%, of which Iran had 441 kg according to the IAEA’s June 2025 report, it is already possible to build atomic bombs, but not models compact enough to be carried by Iran’s largest missiles, such as the Khorramshahr, which have a range of 2,000 km and a payload of almost 2 tonnes. To produce compact atomic bombs, highly enriched uranium is required. Moving from 60% to 90% enrichment would take only a few weeks, provided there are enough working advanced-model centrifuges, such as Iran’s IR-4 and IR-6. So if Iran had wanted to build an atomic bomb, by far the most logical option would have been to do so immediately after accumulating a substantial quantity of uranium enriched to 60%. Clearly, this had not yet happened, on the basis of the IAEA’s latest inspection. It would instead appear that Khamenei meant to use breaches of the non-proliferation framework to force the Americans to restore the 2015 agreement (JCPOA) or something similar.

Feel they support our position to be honest. If you have a different source then I'd be interested to read it
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I see that you have the JCPOA agreement, otherwise known as the Iranian nuclear deal in bold letters.

An agreement ripped up by the orange one at the behest of his bestie Netenyahu, much to the dismay of pretty much every other country involved at the time.

These two have been in cohorts for a long time regarding Iran. I think the tail is wagging the dog personally, what's the Jewish word for Kompromat?
 
cleavers said:
I don't think Iran hitting the US Embassy in Riyadh (Saudi) was a particularly sensible idea.
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I don't think whoever is now in charge (who certainly wasn't expecting to be a week ago) is thinking particularly rationally right now, not that I particularly blame them. Doesn't make the world safer today than it was a month ago mind.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
I see that you have the JCPOA agreement, otherwise known as the Iranian nuclear deal in bold letters.

An agreement ripped up by the orange one at the behest of his bestie Netenyahu, much to the dismay of pretty much every other country involved at the time.

These two have been in cohorts for a long time regarding Iran. I think the tail is wagging the dog personally, what's the Jewish word for Kompromat?
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More than a few believe Epstein Island was a Mossad honey pot....
 
thelantern said:
There is an option 4 though, namely the 3 options some amateur strategist on the internet posts have been plucked out of a Ostriches caboose and means nothing at all?
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Well I don't see how options one or two are remotely viable. So it doesn't really leave any other options for an end game, apart from a coup, but not sure if that's at all viable either.
 

Damocles said:
Greater Israel can't ever exist and its more an anti-semetic conspiracy theory (with all due respect). The entire region and world would turn on them if Israel tried to implement it, and frankly, many of our Government say badly worded or out of context statements all the time but they're not considered official policy.

Israel wants to protect itself. Yes, they do horrendous shit to achieve that goal, but they're not an imperialist force that is trying to conquer countries. They're cunts, but not that type of cunts. The state of Israel is bad under Bibi because their doctrine has become "survive at all cost", not "expand at all costs". There's a moral difference there. I'm no fan of the Israeli government but I can recognise the difference between desperation and imperialism
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Correct mate, there is a lot of ill advised Anti-Semetic views on here, a lot of these views come from people who conveniently forget that Abu Dhabi support Israel and USA in bombing Iran with air bases!

Imagine hating Israel, but not mentioning that our owners fully back them (and rightly so)!

Some people are glad to pick and choose!
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Well I don't see how options one or two are remotely viable. So it doesn't really leave any other options for an end game, apart from a coup, but not sure if that's at all viable either.
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To be fair you're not suggesting what you presume might happen to be an opinion based on some knowledge you think you have that others don't, expressing the most humanitarian option is more than likely going to be the most pleasing and one that most would agree with.

Hope for the best option 4?
 
Ysabel 123 said:
Correct mate, there is a lot of ill advised Anti-Semetic views on here, a lot of these views come from people who conveniently forget that Abu Dhabi support Israel and USA in bombing Iran with air bases!

Imagine hating Israel, but not mentioning that our owners fully back them (and rightly so)!

Some people are glad to pick and choose!
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Our owner’s country’s government are cunts as well.

Are you yet another bellend that thinks criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic? Fucking moron.
 
thelantern said:
To be fair you're not suggesting what you presume might happen to be an opinion based on some knowledge you think you have that others don't, expressing the most humanitarian option is more than likely going to be the most pleasing and one that most would agree with.

Hope for the best option 4?
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Yes option 4 would be the best option if whoever took over was nice and cuddly, I just don't see how it's viable though, not that I'm an expert, just my opinion.
 
The Flash said:
Would it have something to do with:

a) plummeting approval rates for Trump in the US with mid-terms approaching
b) tarriffs backfiring and it's going to cost the US economy
c) the Epstein files revealing he is a prolific child abuser and a sex offender
or
d) all of the above
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d - All of the above...

Plus, Saudi Arabia and Israel are blackmailing Trump because they have knowledge and evidence of wrongdoing in relation to Epstein.
 
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Metal Biker said:
So what should have happened?
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The international community grow a set of balls and deal with international relations rather than let Israel and Team America World Police determine the future of yet another country?

Why is it that America is running around negotiating deals (or not) with Iran and Russia etc.

Who appointed them world negotiator. They've made it clear that their only interest is whats good for America, so they can fuck off back to America and let the grown ups deal with international relations.

Naive maybe, but the world would be better (and safer) a a result.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
The history of those believing everything is a plot run by Jews doesn't show them on a good light.
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He was more than likely a Mossad agent.

www.aljazeera.com

What were Jeffrey Epstein’s links to Israel?

New documents show some thought disgraced US financier had links to Israeli intelligence services and settler groups.BI
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

Although Bibi has tweeted that he wasn’t. So you know, probably wasn’t.
 
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As an aside, feels like this conflict is the final nail in the coffin of Twitter/X as any kind of meaningful platform. There’s so much misinformation and endless AI generated videos. Every comment is asking Grok if the content is real, and even Grok’s replies are often not credible. It’s an absolute mess. Nice one, Elon.
 
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