What has caused the current volatility in the world

[Gorton_Tubster]

I am sure we all have our theories. It seems to have been going tits up since 2015ish for me. Social media, immigration issues, Trump and maga, Ukraine, Covid, other things. It seems to have been a perfect storm of things.

For me I think the social uprising in north Africa and the ME back in the early 2010s, Tunisia then spreading to surrounding countries, the immigration caused by that, the political point scoring off the back of that by the RW, then the flustering and headless chicken govns we have had because of the rise of the right and (Supposed) immigration problems I think all that was watched by America who said we dont want that, we want Trump. And then Trump has fucked things up even more.

I dont assume I am right tbh but thats my theory, dont hammer me for it - I dont really care if I am right or wrong.... What about everyone else though.

 

[TinFoilHat]

 

[youngbob]

In terms of the 21st century: 9/11, the 2008 bank crash, and social media. But also billionaires and world leaders who in their hearts know (but pretend they don't) that the world is environmentally doomed and will need to be left behind in the future, so they're hoarding as much land and wealth as they can in order to buy their children and grandchildren's tickets to Mars in the year 2090.

In terms of the 20th century events that set all this in place... fuck, where do you start? Bush stealing the election in 1999? Watergate? Putin bombing those flats? The total death of democratic social politics, replaced by neoliberal capitalist politics? Governments handing all money and power to the banks across the 80s and 90s? The long-enduring paranoia of the Cold War? World War II? World War I? The shooting of Franz Ferdinand? The list goes on.

 

[Kinkybyname]

Masters

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Right wing arseholes. Many supported by Russian and Israeli money.

These people are like cancer in a functioning liberal democracy. Politically they cause havoc. They do damage and the more government seems dysfunctional the more appealing extremists political views become.

 

[oldius]

Politicians and their donors.

 

[youngbob]

Highly recommended @Gorton_Tubster. Probably the finest recent document on why things are where they are globally.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p093wp6h/cant-get-you-out-of-my-head

Same with this, but this has more of a British perspective: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m002d2jv/shifty

 

[City Hobgoblin]

People unable to accept that we live short lives on a tiny planet with finite resources, and being unable to see that it's better to try to get along peacefully and share things. Use our evolved intellgence for the greater good, not personal gain.

 

[supercity88]

In more recent times, in my opinion it's been the push for green energy and the recognition by some that hoarding the resources that are left brings great wealth and power. Everything Trump has done is motivated by getting access to more resources. He's killed the green energy push and climate change agenda so that everyone keeps using the energy and the US will end up as the main supplier and can set their price. Everything else is just collateral damage.

 

[dickie davies]

The New York plane attacks in 2001

From there it was war in Afghanistan and Gulf War 2, which led onto the Arab spring and the refugee crisis

 

[We've got Guardiola]

People need to understand that volatility is completely normal and there is no factor of events that are worse than before. The only reason why we view it with instability, stress and anxiety is because it is piped to us as rolling 24/7 news and then there is the political commentary on social media.

Rolling news and crap on X or TikTok isn't however done to cover events to keep you informed of threats, it's to make money. The closest threat to the UK recently has been terrorism, that's it, however there has only been a mere handful of terrorist attacks over the last 20 years. Events in Iran and even Ukraine are mostly irrelevant to us but it's on the news everyday 24/7.

I still view that humans cannot cope with this level of information sharing and gathering and it's why so many people are becoming mentally ill. It's just wrong on a biological level today that some people can know the intricacies of a war in a country 4,000 miles away but they don't even know who their neighbours are.

Imagine if we were cavemen running around the wilderness and somebody told us that a pack of thousands of killer lions were running around killing people 4,000 miles away. There is no threat there due to being so far away but we still feel major anxiety because that's how our brain works and that is what is happening today.

If anyone feels that anxiety then my best advice is to take a break, stay local, do something creative and useful.... And spend as little time in politics as possible because it isn't good for us.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

People, power, and money.

 

[Ban-jani]

It’s always been like this. Humans are naturally tribalistic and attack other tribes. It’s not more or less volatile than before. It was like this 500 years ago and it’ll be the same in 500 years. Scrapping over resources, paranoia about what others are doing, hatred due to religion/race/nationality, greed etc. are all still with us and always will be.

You’ll get people blaming “the right” or capitalism or Western culture on here but communist societies were just as violent, if not more so. It’s just human nature.

Homo Sapiens are the least aggressive of the great apes, but that doesn’t mean we’re not very aggressive when we feel threatened, especially in groups.

 

[BlueRockape]

Greed
For money land and resources nothing more

 

[Magicpole]

The New York plane attacks in 2001


From there it was war in Afghanistan and Gulf War 2, which led onto the Arab spring and the refugee crisis

I think you need to mention what caused those attcks. Or, did they just feel like doing it?

 

[City Hobgoblin]

The New York plane attacks in 2001

From there it was war in Afghanistan and Gulf War 2, which led onto the Arab spring and the refugee crisis

Take that back to Russia's failed invasion of Afghanistan and the West supporting the Mujahideen

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Cunts and greedy people. Note, the two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[melrose40yarder]

The Epstein files

 

[youngbob]

It’s always been like this. Humans are naturally tribalistic and attack other tribes. It’s not more or less volatile than before. It was like this 500 years ago and it’ll be the same in 500 years. Scrapping over resources, paranoia about what others are doing, hatred due to religion/race/nationality, greed etc. are all still with us and always will be.

You’ll get people blaming “the right” or capitalism or Western culture on here but communist societies were just as violent, if not more so. It’s just human nature.

Homo Sapiens are the least aggressive of the great apes, but that doesn’t mean we’re not very aggressive when we feel threatened, especially in groups.

Sort of agree but sort of disagree. Humans have evolved to become intelligent, resourceful, adaptable, and self-aware creatures. We have evolved out of all sorts of bad habits we used to have. War, fighting, and destruction used to be how we survived, but then we evolved beyond the need to fight to survive. We used to think gods in the sky determined everything, then we realised it was all explainable with science. Why can we not progress beyond war? 95-99% of the species have, but that remaining 1-5% continue to jump to it as a way of winning.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Honestly, I think a lot of it is simply seeing why regulations around media existed. Even in the worst-of-the-worst of the British Press, there were still rules. Things that were printed had to be broadly true. There was a system for dealing with malicious falsehoods that actually worked. TV media had to be impartial to a great extent.

Now we're living in a world where anyone can anonymously post anything and have it spread around the world instantaneously with no consequences if it's blatantly false and/or malicious. But worse, we're living in a world where people are incentivised to do so by big American (and one Chinese) tech companies. How are you supposed to run a democracy when literally everyone is reading blatant falsehoods constantly and voting on that basis?