US & Israel attack Iran

It will reopen. The Gulf States need it open, China, India need it open. Keep the Strait closed and countries will look for ways around the problem. Keeping it open means countries will use it and that maintains Iran’s leverage to close it in extremis.

It already is open to China and India. Iran are purposely trying to divide the gulf states from America whilst keeping it's own allies happy. Which is why the ladder of escalation is going to be climbed even more as America now has no real way out the fools.
 
It already is open to China and India. Iran are purposely trying to divide the gulf states from America whilst keeping it's own allies happy. Which is why the ladder of escalation is going to be climbed even more as America now has no real way out the fools.
It’s absolutely incredible just how much this **** has fucked up.
 
America always operates for its own benefit, there is zero benefit to this war for them all lit does is weaken them long term.
And if we get dragged into it it will crush us too. Wifes Irish passport can't come soon enough!
 
Yep 100% right.

America Isreal stop bombing say they are done with it all! Will that Strait of Hormuz be safe then for the ship? Or will Iran think we stopped the bombing us now we want America/uk to pull out of all the bases or we keep it shut?
We don’t have any bases in the Middle East mate so pulling out would be an issue.
 
Our attempts to minimise our involvement in this shitshow look like they have fallen short somewhat.

News reports priming us for a potential increase in our involvement regarding Irans Lrbm capability.
Not looking promising that there is going to be a truce any time soon.



 
It already is open to China and India. Iran are purposely trying to divide the gulf states from America whilst keeping it's own allies happy. Which is why the ladder of escalation is going to be climbed even more as America now has no real way out the fools.

The Iranians have created a checkpoint meaning ships have to divert from the main shipping channel for physical verification. This is not the same as being open for business as it restricts shipping volumes. During conflict limiting access make sense, but the question was about keeping the Strait closed or restricted after the conflict has ended which would be counterproductive and contrary to Iran’s interests.
 
Yes you are.
Ever since I was a boy - all that was needed is an admittance that isreal existed and would continue to exist.
Every olive branch Isreal offered was thrown back in their faces!
it is thus clearly an intractable problem that can only be resolved if that fact is acknowledged.
It never has been.
As a result many Israelis have come to the conclusion that olive branches are a waste of time.
Even if olive branches were offered what do you think the result would be?
I think i know what the answer would be.
The state of Israel famous for it's careful management of olive trees and branches.

Obviously this reference will go completely over your head because, as you repeatedly display, your ignorance on this knows no bounds. You offer nothing more than mindlessly regurgitating easily repeatable hasbara soundbites that have no basis in reality.
 
I hate to be the one to break this to you but the earth is a sphere and that map is flat where distances get distorted.

This is high school geography, perhaps you should have paid a bit more attention in class.

There will be an influx of flat earth advocates rushing to this thread to dispute this :)
 
"Trump does not think strategically. Nor does he think historically, geographically, or even rationally. He does not connect actions he takes on one day to events that occur weeks later." ~Anne Applebaum, The Atlantic

Think that sums it up well.
 

Have the UK Government confirmed that the 2 missiles were real and, if so, came from Iran?

I only ask this as my thoughts were always that Israel would bring the US in, and then the US would call for European/NATO involvement to create an even bigger mess that would allow Israel to further attack Labanon and Iran.

Funny, that this morning an ex-Israeli PM, stood in an area that has been bombed by Iran, tells us that now we know Iran has long-range missiles that can strike all of Europe, we all have to get involved in the conflict and support what they are doing.
 

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