US & Israel attack Iran

[Manchester_lalala]

Found the last remaining Trump fan in the country. You and tolmie actually.

How does that post make me a fan? He doesn’t give a fuck what he’s saying, which part of that isn’t true?

 

[lust overlord]

Our attempts to minimise our involvement in this shitshow look like they have fallen short somewhat.

News reports priming us for a potential increase in our involvement regarding Irans Lrbm capability.
Not looking promising that there is going to be a truce any time soon.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I agree that they have to accept the facts on the ground.

All I was saying is that it is very easy for people living in the West to think that Israel was a great idea because it gave a home to a people who had been murdered in their millions without thinking at all about the people who were directly affected by the creation of a new state.

With hindsight, it was a terrible idea, at least in the form it was created, but we are where we are.

 

[BlueAnorak]

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Only to you.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Trump is two days away from saying "I'll give you to the count of three, or I am going to commit the worst war crimes against you, and no TV till the weekend either". Who let this guy think he was some mastermind deal making negotiater, it's having some terrible consequences now.

Wonder what briefings they had from the CIA, Pentagon etc to what cause and effect military action would have. How much of it also they have chosen to ignore and plough on regardless.

Two weeks into this and Iran is still chucking missiles and drones at countries round the Gulf. What a shit show.

 

[BlueRockape]

This administration is crazy.

They attack Iran and then suspend sanctions on Iranian oil - they have no fucking clue what they are doing and nothing they do makes sense.

They can't even articulate any reason why they attacked in the first place if not to be ISRAEL's BITCH!

Israel is basically as evil as Nazi Germany and the US has become Italy - a willing bitch.

This

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

This administration is crazy.

They attack Iran and then suspend sanctions on Iranian oil - they have no fucking clue what they are doing and nothing they do makes sense.

They can't even articulate any reason why they attacked in the first place if not to be ISRAEL's BITCH!

Israel is basically as evil as Nazi Germany and the US has become Italy - a willing bitch.

This again

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Just seen Rory Stewart tell it how it is on Sky News. Sobering stuff.

 

[waspish]

Just seen Rory Stewart tell it how it is on Sky News. Sobering stuff.

Yep 100% right.

America Isreal stop bombing say they are done with it all! Will that Strait of Hormuz be safe then for the ship? Or will Iran think we stopped the bombing us now we want America/uk to pull out of all the bases or we keep it shut?

 

[BobKowalski]

Yep 100% right.

America Isreal stop bombing say they are done with it all! Will that Strait of Hormuz be safe then for the ship? Or will Iran think we stopped the bombing us now we want America/uk to pull out of all the bases or we keep it shut?

It will reopen. The Gulf States need it open, China, India need it open. Keep the Strait closed and countries will look for ways around the problem. Keeping it open means countries will use it and that maintains Iran’s leverage to close it in extremis.

 

[Elbow beards]

Just seen Rory Stewart tell it how it is on Sky News. Sobering stuff.

What's he said?

 

[BlueAnorak]

Perhaps don't assassinate your own leaders trying to find a way to peace.

Well yes - but that applies to both sides doesn't it.

 

[meltonblue]

“The Italian Prime Minister launches a scathing attack on #Trump

You must understand that you are only the president of #America, not #Italy, #France, or #Germany, and you will not have the right to dictate to the sovereignty of these countries.

You are the one who made the Strait of #Hormuz unsafe because of your war with the Iranians, and we will not join you against them. You are obligated before the world to restore it to its previous state of safety for the passage of #oil tankers.

Europe will not bear responsibility for your decisions, whether they are right or wrong, and Italy refuses to be part of this war, from which we will gain nothing but harm.”

She didn’t say any of that or say anything scathing about Trump. Think people need to be very careful what they ingest on X and repost elsewhere, most of it is just rubbish.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

What's he said?

Said this was a huge mistake as was our association with it. Said it was entirely natural for Iran to respond as they have. Said Israel and the US need to stop now or there will be global economic meltdown and quite possibly WW3.

 

[argyle]

“The Italian Prime Minister launches a scathing attack on #Trump

You must understand that you are only the president of #America, not #Italy, #France, or #Germany, and you will not have the right to dictate to the sovereignty of these countries.

You are the one who made the Strait of #Hormuz unsafe because of your war with the Iranians, and we will not join you against them. You are obligated before the world to restore it to its previous state of safety for the passage of #oil tankers.

Europe will not bear responsibility for your decisions, whether they are right or wrong, and Italy refuses to be part of this war, from which we will gain nothing but harm.”

Is this true what she said?

There's a lot of disinformation and outright lies on twitter.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Is this true what she said?

There's a lot of disinformation and outright lies on twitter.

Pretty seismic, if true, given her relationship with Trump.

 

[argyle]

She didn’t say any of that or say anything scathing about Trump. Think people need to be very careful what they ingest on X and repost elsewhere, most of it is just rubbish.

As I suspected. So much A.I slop and lies on that site.

No matter what political views you have there's lies on there to meet them.

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

Ah yes, all those slaughtered Muslim children and women that want the extinction of Israel. All those hospitals and schools that are bombed because the patients, doctors, nurses, teachers and pupils all want the extinction of Israel. All those IDF terrorists watching Palestinians kids bleed to death because said kids want the extinction of Israel. All those oppressed Palestinians in the West Bank that have their homes appropriated by illegal settlers and their families slaughtered because they want the extinction of Israel.

There's only group intent on extermination, so do one with the zionist propaganda.

Too many evil scumbag zionists in this world. It’s why these horrors keep happening and continuing. We see them as they are. For too long they were deflecting with various narratives but not any more.

 

[metalblue]

Range is usually indicated using a circular illustration -notice how the IDF provide a more elliptical illustration that gives Iranian missiles at least 10% more range so that it includes London? In reality at best they would be 4 to 500km short - dodgy dossier anyone?

I hate to be the one to break this to you but the earth is a sphere and that map is flat where distances get distorted.

This is high school geography, perhaps you should have paid a bit more attention in class.

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

Yes you are.
Ever since I was a boy - all that was needed is an admittance that isreal existed and would continue to exist.
Every olive branch Isreal offered was thrown back in their faces!
it is thus clearly an intractable problem that can only be resolved if that fact is acknowledged.
It never has been.
As a result many Israelis have come to the conclusion that olive branches are a waste of time.
Even if olive branches were offered what do you think the result would be?
I think i know what the answer would be.

Don’t the Zionists go and uproot olive trees and burn Palestinians olive groves so as to destroy Palestinian means to exist and provide for themselves. Is that how they get all these branches you keep referring to? I have not mentioned the false detentions, home and land seizures, raping of detainees etc. know any wannabe “settlers” from Manchester or London waiting for a Palestinian home like a council house here?