UK State Pension

I don't understand how this works. Can you explain please.
If your State Pension is more than your personal allowances they take the amount that exceeds your allowances and add it to your private pension to recover the tax. You get your private pension less the normal 20% then less the 20% of the added amount. A ‘K’ code is how they do it.
 
If your State Pension is more than your personal allowances they take the amount that exceeds your allowances and add it to your private pension to recover the tax. You get your private pension less the normal 20% then less the 20% of the added amount. A ‘K’ code is how they do it.
OK.

But as of the 1st April the SP of £12548 doesn't reach the personal allowance limit of £12570 so there is no tax to pay.

Obviously if there is any further income that then exceeds £12570 then tax becomes payable on the excess at 20%. The SP element remains tax free as far as I'm aware.

I have been in drawdown since 2017 and have never had a tax code other than, for example 1257L which it is now.

I get my SP in 2 years and will simply reduce my drawdown by a similar amount, or more likely, just say "sod it I'll have some more money in my pocket".
 
I never said I was double taxed. I said my State Pension would be reduced if I had no private pension because it is now more than my personal allowances.
I think it's more accurate to say your income is reduced rather than the SP is reduced.

I do agree though that there is no way the basic SP should be subject to tax. They should have lifted the lowest tax threshold to ensure it doesn't happen. Private pension is the same as any income and so liable to tax, after all it was tax free going into the pension.
 
Blimey ! It only seems yesterday you retired.
I'm in a similar boat to you with the partner being younger and by the time she's retired I'll be a goner. Extending retirement age has definitely cocked my final days up.
I know mate it’s scary how fast it goes, it’s like I was never in the job if I’m honest, like someone else’s life. If my wife makes it to state retirement age which will probably be 68 by then I’ll be 80, so she’s only got another 23 years to go!
 
I think it's more accurate to say your income is reduced rather than the SP is reduced.

I do agree though that there is no way the basic SP should be subject to tax. They should have lifted the lowest tax threshold to ensure it doesn't happen. Private pension is the same as any income and so liable to tax, after all it was tax free going into the pension.
My state Pension is made up of three elements Basic SP, SERPS and Graduated. All elements were earned with deductions from my wages as encouraged to do by various Governments. Why should any of it be taxed, personal allowances need increasing for pensioners.
 
My state Pension is made up of three elements Basic SP, SERPS and Graduated. All elements were earned with deductions from my wages as encouraged to do by various Governments. Why should any of it be taxed, personal allowances need increasing for pensioners.
I'm sorry but I'm confused. It is commonly accepted that NI goes towards the basic SP. How were all elements subject to tax relief? The only tax relief payable is on a private/personal/company pension How are you be able to differentiate what you contributed to each element? I'm genuinely trying to understand how this part all works.
 
My state Pension is made up of three elements Basic SP, SERPS and Graduated. All elements were earned with deductions from my wages as encouraged to do by various Governments. Why should any of it be taxed, personal allowances need increasing for pensioners.
I was in the same boat so as you say it was untaxed money that was deducted so at some stage actually when you receive it back it becomes taxable.
 
I'm sorry but I'm confused. It is commonly accepted that NI goes towards the basic SP. How were all elements subject to tax relief? The only tax relief payable is on a private/personal/company pension How are you be able to differentiate what you contributed to each element? I'm genuinely trying to understand how this part all works.
Not sure about Gray but in my case my contributions for NI were a percentage of my salary so for some of my middle years I was contributing a maximum which was far more than the average person. I was also taxed heavily.
For some of those years they were removing the 3 Gray mentioned.
My combined Pension reflects a full basic plus the other 2 now redundant contributions and a generous 5 or 6 pence per week for being over 80.

In Spain where I now live if I had paid more into the system I would get more out of it as a pensión but in UK my basic SP is the same as a person who has made minimum contribution via salary despite paying a maximum for many years.
 
I’ve read that three months before state pension age I’ll receive a letter to claim.
I hit state pension age 66 in mid June so I’m slightly past that 3 months but my sp isn’t payable till September so outside the 3 months when it comes to me actually getting it.
So should I be contacting them or wait till I’m within the 3 months when payments due.
 
I’ve read that three months before state pension age I’ll receive a letter to claim.
I hit state pension age 66 in mid June so I’m slightly past that 3 months but my sp isn’t payable till September so outside the 3 months when it comes to me actually getting it.
So should I be contacting them or wait till I’m within the 3 months when payments due.
I hit 66 in May pension payable in July had my invitation to apply online mid March want bank details and proof of who you are.
 

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