US & Israel attack Iran

you have to ignore everything the POTUS and his crew say as he contradicts himself and each other on a daily basis. Only focus on what he actually does that is irrefutable. The only way out of this is if he and Israel back down and that isn't going to happen so we are faced with scenarios that go from very bad to apocalyptic. Where are the american military, politicians and civil servants not to mention the 60% of population that dont support the crazed loon?
 
They’re deciding who goes through based on the end destination not just who owns the ship.

At best it means our supply chain is going to be more expensive because everything will have to pass through a third country.

It will impact all European countries then and not just the U.K. regardless of our position. Vessels do not just go to the U.K.
 
All the ships got to the same place. After the Middle East they all stop at Hamburg, Antwerp, Le Havre and then Southampton or Felixstowe. They don’t just go to the U.K.

I’m not a shipping expert so I’ll defer to your knowledge.

Good to know we’re just supporting an illegal war and won’t face even worse economic damage because of it.
 
Spain can do this because their economy isn't as affected by the fallout of America and Isreal's actions.

They also don't have as much interests in parts of the Middle East as we do.
So tell me exactly what we are going to do. It all revolves around the Strait of Hormuz which the Yanks now seem to want to walk away from. I don't want murdered troops all for the sake of the Israeli and American terriost blowing the world up.
 
I’m not a shipping expert so I’ll defer to your knowledge.

Good to know we’re just supporting an illegal war and won’t face even worse economic damage because of it.

Not debating that point but as I said container ships on the China - Europe trade lane (largest trade lane in the world) all stop at the same deep sea ports in Europe after the Middle East: Rotterdam, Hamburg, Antwerp, Le Havre and then the U.K.
 
So tell me exactly what we are going to do. It all revolves around the Strait of Hormuz which the Yanks now seem to want to walk away from. I don't want murdered troops all for the sake of the Israeli and American terriost blowing the world up.

You need to ask the British security services for what we're going to do.

No one else wanted this war. Britain certainly didn't. But it's happened and we now have to manage the fallout and that means planning for any escalation. We have British citizens over there, business and trade interests and allies in the Middle East that would want our help if needed.

Hopefully the troops etc aren't needed. But in Trump and Netanyahu they're not the calmest and most rational of leaders.

It's a shit situation.
 
So basically we have to send our troops all over the world to defend British citizens if they come under attack?

Bearing in mind the country they are residing in is helping in an illegal war which is slaughtering their neighbours people.

Those folk know there are American bases causing these problems so it's up to them to roll the dice.
The country they are residing in has come under attack by Iran. It’s not their fault America has gone rogue.
 
Do they? Why?

Maybe an obligation to help them get out, but I know of no obligation to wage war to help them stay there.
Maybe if they’re there and UK citizens need to be repatriated it will be much more easy to organise.
 
Why are we defending our allies when they’re participating in an illegal war?

The tomahawk that killed 170 kids was launched from Bahrain or Kuwait. So now, while Starmer has still refused to condemn that mass murder, we’re sending British troops to stop Iran retaliating.

And let’s not forget only civilian fatalities from this war in Bahrain came from a US tomahawk misfiring, which was blamed on Iran until the New York Times published proof of what actually happened.
Oh, I’m not defending anything that Israel and its puppy dog are doing, just refuting some bullshit that is being posted and trying to understand what people are being exposed to, to spread such bullshit?

Even though I fucking hate what Israel and the US are doing, I’m also not daft enough to not understand what cunts Iran are, and why this shit is happening now.

To be clear, who are we defending? Which countries exactly?
 
Oh, I’m not defending anything that Israel and its puppy dog are doing, just refuting some bullshit that is being posted and trying to understand what people are being exposed to, to spread such bullshit?

Even though I fucking hate what Israel and the US are doing, I’m also not daft enough to not understand what cunts Iran are, and why this shit is happening now.

To be clear, who are we defending? Which countries exactly?

Bahrain, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia according to the BBC.
 
I think it’s more about Netanyahu keeping himself out of jail by staying in power. Same motivation as Shitgibbon.

He's got the Israeli population on his side to do as he pleases. Mass murder. Genocide. Ethnic cleansing. Torturing/raping prisoners.

It's gone long past he's doing all this to keep out of jail. Like him and his Goverment a huge portion of normal Israeli folk have now got the taste of blood and they seem to like it.

Defending any ounce of Isreal's war crimes has long gone.
 
I think it’s more about Netanyahu keeping himself out of jail by staying in power. Same motivation as Shitgibbon.
Completely agree, but what is the plan to keep him away from justice, to write himself into religious law by ensuring that they can accommodate new immigrants with further expansion.

Trump is different, he’s insulated from jail due to his position, and that if he acted inappropriately WRT Epstein, it was before electronic means and was shredded prior to any investigation.
 
Bahrain, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia according to the BBC.
Aren’t those countries allies to the UK? Also, haven’t we got UK assets in those locations?

No need to answer, mate, I know the answer and understand why we’re there. Iran aren’t our friend, and even though I absolutely disagree with what Israel and the US are doing, I would enjoy a political situation which was more aligned to the rest of the areas that you mention.

I don’t ask for perfection, but I much prefer the best option.
 
On the quiet? We are where we are and there to defend our own interests and allies.

We don’t have any ME bases, we have hubs, with no capabilities that would aid the US. That would be down to the host nation.

Can I ask, do you spend a lot of time on Twitter/X? Are these conspiracies and misinformation the norm?
What conspiracy ?it’s from the BBC it’s not on X
 
Completely agree, but what is the plan to keep him away from justice, to write himself into religious law by ensuring that they can accommodate new immigrants with further expansion.

Trump is different, he’s insulated from jail due to his position, and that if he acted inappropriately WRT Epstein, it was before electronic means and was shredded prior to any investigation.
Netanyahu will probably provoke killings of one or more senior judges which could happen sooner rather than later when they rule that the new death penalty law is unconstitutional, which is apparently what is expected. That will likely be enough to scare the judiciary into submission.

Trump will probably not live long enough to face justice, and once he’s dead the videos will be made public in an effort to tarnish his legacy with the MAGA freaks.
 

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