Introducing The Citizens Trust - Manchester City Supporters' Union

[BertM19]

Apologies that I didn't get round to this. However, I wanted to share that we have reached over 500 members of the Trust. This is an incredible achievement, and again, I think it speaks volumes about the appetite for this sort of organisation amongst the fanbase.

That said, having members is one thing, but we know that comes with a responsibility. We will be looking to share more information soon on what exactly comes next, and how members can take part in the Trust.

500 members in three days! – The Citizens Trust

thecitizenstrust.org

@Ban-jani

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Mate what would it matter what the Osc think ? They’ve not tweeted anything supportive but of course that’s whoever is on the account… not the membership. The membership is ordinary blues who can all join the trust- why would the Osc organise a supporters trust they are not independent of the football club

How independent are you with your 19 posts mate? That’s a genuine question by the way.

Good luck to the Trust. There seem to be plenty of high calibre blues involved.

On a wider point not related to your comments. Independence is important of course but I don’t know why a few posters have used it to have a dig at Blues who’ve given up their free time on City Matters and seem to have been working with one arm tied behind their backs.

Picking up a comment from another poster about half and half scarves. There have been welcome improvements in a few parts of the ground where the club seems to have listened to fans inc 1894.

 

[kippax_blueboy]

That's kind of my point, MCFC fan issues are probably rock bottom of his list of priorities at the moment..

If he is not focused enough on City he should step down as Chairman. I understand he has bigger things on his mind.

 

[kippax_blueboy]

How independent are you with your 19 posts mate? That’s a genuine question by the way.

Good luck to the Trust. There seem to be plenty of high calibre blues involved.

On a wider point not related to your comments. Independence is important of course but I don’t know why a few posters have used it to have a dig at Blues who’ve given up their free time on City Matters and seem to have been working with one arm tied behind their backs.

Picking up a comment from another poster about half and half scarves. There have been welcome improvements in a few parts of the ground where the club seems to have listened to fans inc 1894.

Can the OSC not merge with the Trust.

 

[coolcity]

I can't see if 30000 join the trust why they would take notice. Unitl the Chairman understands the issues nothing will change. Also every fan has a different view of what is wrong.

That's exactly my point. The club has to be run as a successful business first and foremost, and that's the way the board will view it. So making chances to suit the fanbase (or a certain section of it) might not necessarily line up with what's needed for the club to be successful, and nobody can argue that what they have done hasn't been successful.

As you say, different fans have different views. I spent many years travelling home and away but my health, age and finances don't allow me to do that now so ticketing issues (which seems to be the one topic that is complained about more than anything else), don't mean a thing to me.

That's not to say I don't care, but unless it's something that affects you directly most people are not going to be that bothered by it. After all, most of us just want to watch the team be as successful as it can be and that's enough for us.

Incidentally, could the chairman potentially have met with Starmer to discuss the shot shoe that is the 115? Could be something along the lines of "Look what we be have done for English football, what we've done in Manchester, and the jobs we have created and so on yet look what this little nobody Masters is trying to do to us. Anything you can do to help it go away?"

Who knows?

 

[I'm not really here]

Joined

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

We need to get the Chairman on here

He was, but I banned him when he said The Smiths were shite


I just signed up

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Can the OSC not merge with the Trust.

No.
The OSC is not set up to challenge the club but to support the club.
At the height of the Swales Out campaign in the early 90’s, the supporters club - or Frank Horrocks - told the MEN that the supporters club was 100% behind Swales. A comment made without polling supporters clubs or members, a comment that led to branches resigning and the Manchester City Independent Supporters Club to be formed. They became the Centenary Supporters Association after the club “didn’t like” the term independent- and they had a point as the CSA branches still requested tickets / player visits to branch meetings and other privileges.

The Trust needs to be independent of the club

 

[Tim of the Oak]

That's exactly my point. The club has to be run as a successful business first and foremost, and that's the way the board will view it. So making chances to suit the fanbase (or a certain section of it) might not necessarily line up with what's needed for the club to be successful, and nobody can argue that what they have done hasn't been successful.

As you say, different fans have different views. I spent many years travelling home and away but my health, age and finances don't allow me to do that now so ticketing issues (which seems to be the one topic that is complained about more than anything else), don't mean a thing to me.

That's not to say I don't care, but unless it's something that affects you directly most people are not going to be that bothered by it. After all, most of us just want to watch the team be as successful as it can be and that's enough for us.

Incidentally, could the chairman potentially have met with Starmer to discuss the shot shoe that is the 115? Could be something along the lines of "Look what we be have done for English football, what we've done in Manchester, and the jobs we have created and so on yet look what this little nobody Masters is trying to do to us. Anything you can do to help it go away?"

Who knows?

And look at which part of the world was sending PPE to the U.K. at the peak of the pandemic. These charges could be devastating - unless we are exonerated - for the Islington Mafia.

 

[kippaxed54]

I've joined, wish the initiative well and may well get more involved if an opportunity arises.

One other reason why I think the Trust is an important thing is that the Government set up the Independent Football Regulator (https://www.footballregulator.org.uk/) after Tracy Crouch's review. The IFR (which will also run a licensing scheme for English clubs), calls out the need for Supporter Trusts as a key mechanism for consultation: examples called out specifically include ground moves, naming and changes to club colours.

Whether you think the IFR was needed (IMHO this has only happened because the FA has shown its not able to) isn't important now - it exists, and all the Club Trusts will be the recognised as important to allow Clubs to get a license, and to be consulted more in the future.

 

[Donmcfc]

Why have you used the spelling Citizens and not Cityzens?

 

[Corky]

Why have you used the spelling Citizens and not Cityzens?

The latter spelling is incorrect, the club made it up a few years ago for some cheesy initiative, could be trademarked too knowing them.

 

[citysince88]

I've signed up.

 

[birchvillablue]

I hope this makes a difference, so far fans have been shat on...

 

[BertM19]

 

[jockblue]

I think most City fans will agree that ticket prices are too high, ticketing partners are a disaster, club is disconnected with the fans (note not customers) and half and half scarves should be banned.

Sure, some will but not all - Some would argue that none of the above are relevant to their own support of the club - they might be in a lucky position that they can afford the season tickets but have other issues - accessibility, travel to/from the ground, parking, transfer restrictions on STs, away fans in the home end, ticket prices for non-season ticket holders, availability of away tickets etc etc ....

The only point I'm making is that there are many issues that some fans have. We can't assume your issues or mine are everyone's issues...

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Incidentally, could the chairman potentially have met with Starmer to discuss the shot shoe that is the 115? Could be something along the lines of "Look what we be have done for English football, what we've done in Manchester, and the jobs we have created and so on yet look what this little nobody Masters is trying to do to us. Anything you can do to help it go away?"

Who knows?

Starmer is a Gooner so right now he’d prefer us to have this mythical 60 point incoming points deduction!

 

[Enzo's Mascara]

Joined
Come and lads and lasses..Have your voice heard and don’t let the club take the piss with season tickets etc..

 

[PitchInvader BHA away1983]

If you do nothing, then nothing will change!!

Hopefully, £5 - well invested for a Great Blue Future??

Joined :0)

 

[Ryan Kinlon]

Congratulations to everyone involved in the trust. I hope you can help guide the club’s decisions in a positive direction while preserving the integrity of Man City. Credit to all those working hard to make this happen!