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hampshireblue said:
I just watched Streeting on Sky and also on LBC(Lewis Goodall takes no prisoners). I have to say he performed pretty well in both interviews and suspect he will be the obvious choice should Starmer go after May elections. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea not being a multi millionaire and from a working class background but he's not afraid to say what he thinks( open criticism of Trump this morning).
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He's a right wing **** bought and paid for by a US healthcare firm.

Who also has an unhealthy interest in eugenics.
 
hampshireblue said:
I just watched Streeting on Sky and also on LBC(Lewis Goodall takes no prisoners). I have to say he performed pretty well in both interviews and suspect he will be the obvious choice should Starmer go after May elections. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea not being a multi millionaire and from a working class background but he's not afraid to say what he thinks( open criticism of Trump this morning).
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I like people who are all over their brief, and he is.
 
This talk of aligning to the single market and the shit with the crazy yanks had made it clearer they are rolling the pitch for an eventual rejoining of the EU.

I’ve thought for a while they need to put either rejoining the EU or at least a second referendum in the next general election manifesto, and if they did they would win both comfortably.

It’s such an obvious vote winner.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
This talk of aligning to the single market and the shit with the crazy yanks had made it clearer they are rolling the pitch for an eventual rejoining of the EU.

I’ve thought for a while they need to put either rejoining the EU or at least a second referendum in the next general election manifesto, and if they did they would win both comfortably.

It’s such an obvious vote winner.
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Would certainly get our household vote
 
blueinsa said:
Another U-turn and back track on Chagos I see.
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No choice (thank goodness) the US has a veto.
Quite how the UK is beholden to Mauritius is beyond me. Yes they were aldo part of the Indian Ocean territory but so were other places, like the Seychelles (all now indeprndent or handed over to France in exchange for other small bits of land the world over).
Simply allowing former Chagos Islanders settle on the other islands south of Diego Garcia as part of a British indian Ocean Terrotory, is the right approach - a hell of a lot cheaper too.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
No choice (thank goodness) the US has a veto.
Quite how the UK is beholden to Mauritius is beyond me. Yes they were aldo part of the Indian Ocean territory but so were other places, like the Seychelles (all now indeprndent or handed over to France in exchange for other small bits of land the world over).
Simply allowing former Chagos Islanders settle on the other islands south of Diego Garcia as part of a British indian Ocean Terrotory, is the right approach - a hell of a lot cheaper too.
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That’s a fairly sensible take on things.

However the right wing press are ignoring a lot of things about the attempted deal.

One con’s started it

Two international law.

Three if we don’t do a deal the Chinese will be on the next islands and make the base pointless.

4 it’s 100 million a year presumable we charge the Americans this not 35 Billion or whatever figure they are using this week
 
WRicko said:
I don’t like the guy but Eugenics ?
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No idea if he's a eugenicist but he's definitely cheerleading for genetic mapping technology rather than facilitating the public debate about it. Streeting's positioning of the plan for whole-genome sequencing of all babies in England was highly selective in what it touched on and his comments about an ethical framework sounded a bit like lip service to me. Very salesman like, "look at these benefits and yeah yeah don't worry we'll manage the risks". Like other aspects of technological change, we are being shepherded into specific directions with no meaningful public debate. Unless and until he puts some flesh on the bones of the ethics side prior to moving forward, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him on this.

In fairness though Labour haven't had to sack anyone for being an actual eugenicist yet, unlike the previous Conservative government.
 
threespires said:
No idea if he's a eugenicist but he's definitely cheerleading for genetic mapping technology rather than facilitating the public debate about it. Streeting's positioning of the plan for whole-genome sequencing of all babies in England was highly selective in what it touched on and his comments about an ethical framework sounded a bit like lip service to me. Very salesman like, "look at these benefits and yeah yeah don't worry we'll manage the risks". Like other aspects of technological change, we are being shepherded into specific directions with no meaningful public debate. Unless and until he puts some flesh on the bones of the ethics side prior to moving forward, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him on this.

In fairness though Labour haven't had to sack anyone for being an actual eugenicist yet, unlike the previous Conservative government.
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Thank you for explaining it better than I could.

Much appreciated.
 
threespires said:
No idea if he's a eugenicist but he's definitely cheerleading for genetic mapping technology rather than facilitating the public debate about it. Streeting's positioning of the plan for whole-genome sequencing of all babies in England was highly selective in what it touched on and his comments about an ethical framework sounded a bit like lip service to me. Very salesman like, "look at these benefits and yeah yeah don't worry we'll manage the risks". Like other aspects of technological change, we are being shepherded into specific directions with no meaningful public debate. Unless and until he puts some flesh on the bones of the ethics side prior to moving forward, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him on this.

In fairness though Labour haven't had to sack anyone for being an actual eugenicist yet, unlike the previous Conservative government.
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Conservative eugenics ?
 
WRicko said:
The media and Trump have a lot to answer for
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There is little point doing any deal on anything while Trump is in power. It’s like dealing with a toddler continually shitting his pants. That the media would happily damage UK interests for the sake of bashing Starmer is a given.
 
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