A disgraceful undermining of the Ticket Points system - again

[M18CTID]

Having a tifo or a big flag isn’t a good enough reason to fuck over loyal fans going through the proper channels to get access to tickets

So go on Einstein - where should the singing section be then? If it was in the more expensive Level 1 seats behind the goal then someone somewhere would have an issue with that as they offer a better view than the cheaper seats further down. If it was in the cheapest seats in Level 5 then that would piss people off too.

Oh, and nobody’s getting fucked over - as has been stated on more than one occasion, those signed up to the singing section can only buy a ticket in there once they qualify for one.

 

[Tbilisi]

Morning all. Just wanted to flag that we have picked up the concern about this. As an Interim Board, we have sent a letter to the Club this morning seeking clarification and transparency about the situation.

Well done guys, good letter.

 

[fathellensbellend]

also wrong 1894 ring fencing seats, everybody should have their place in the queue, maybe fans with kids would have liked the opportunity to go down the front and watch the game close up, and lets be honest the singing in the bottom tier for last years final was non existent

 

[Alcatraz]

As a season ticket holder, cup registered and one who went to all this seasons cup games including the SF, I am beginning to think my chances of getting a ticket come Tuesday, are rapidly diminishing.
Daylight robbery !

 

[mcfc315]

Actually he was initially saying that anyone signed up to the singing section would get a ticket, regardless of points, SC, and cup scheme status and he also implied that anyone signed up to it could log on at 10am yesterday and buy a ticket.

You’ve got a point to be fair as a minority of fans in that section will get an £80 ticket ahead of someone who is on higher points not signed up to it but no system is perfect and as has been stated the seats aren’t ringfenced indefinitely and they’re not the cheapest in our end anyway. The 1894 singing section has to go somewhere and since we started doing displays at Wembley it invariably has to be at the front of Level 1. If it was further back or in Level 5 then how on earth would we have been able to pull off the Dennis Tueart display in the Carabao Cup Final? Maybe some people want us to put the singing section in Level 2 where the £285 tickets are!

I’ll also add that on at least one other occasion before we used to do displays we did do a singing section further back that encompassed a mixture of cheaper and more expensive Level 1 seats. I’m pretty sure it was the Watford final in 2019 as I recall paying £115 for my ticket and thinking at the time that it was the most I’d ever paid for a ticket.

So no, it’s not a case of just bagging the cheapest seats because if it was we’d be in the £50 seats in Level 5.

On a side note, while I get people are frustrated I bet not a single one of them would turn down the chance of jumping the queue if they had a mate on higher points who wasn’t going to the game and offered them their ticket.

Fair play. You’re right no system is perfect and people will be disappointed either way. Just think the club need to provide further clarity on how tickets are distributed to each group (we all know this). Hopefully the new trust can put pressure on the club to release this information.

 

[BillCarlisle]

Morning all. Just wanted to flag that we have picked up the concern about this. As an Interim Board, we have sent a letter to the Club this morning seeking clarification and transparency about the situation.

Well said.

 

[Rammy Blue]

The thing is there is some who work well and don't even abuse the system. But the majority do and would take take and fuckin take. It needs gutting from the top downwards and a new sort of system put in place. Starting with the charlatan who's in charge

Personally I don’t think in the main it’s “abuse of the system”, as the supporter clubs are just following the protocol they’ve been told to. It’s plainly obvious that whatever ticket number was requested was granted and if you are in a SC then you wouldn’t have your name put forward unless you have the minimum requirement of a matchday membership.

Where it has all gone wrong is that literally someone who has paid the £30odd quid membership and SC member fee can then get first choice on a cup final ticket ahead of the vast majority of people who are season ticket holders on the cup scheme is fucking crackers.

I logged in last night and all the best tickets in each of the categories have already gone. Madness.

 

[cpa]

Morning all. Just wanted to flag that we have picked up the concern about this. As an Interim Board, we have sent a letter to the Club this morning seeking clarification and transparency about the situation.

Excellent letter
Can I just ask who are the Citizens trust and what kind of leverage and meetings they have with the powers at city.
I get confused with who does what with all the supporters groups we seem to have.

 

[cityutopia]

Oh, and nobody’s getting fucked over - as has been stated on more than one occasion, those signed up to the singing section can only buy a ticket in there once they qualify for one.

Repeating myself here & so are you but them cheaper level 1 tickets sold out at 20k points yet 1894 members have reserved the cheaper tickets for whenever it drops to their points level, meaning they are essentially still jumping the queue.

I think it should be a mix of Cat 2 & Cat 3 and have the 1894 block stretch out front to back in future, like you mentioned it was for Watford and those with the highest points should get the £80 ones. That would mean you can do the display + create atmosphere from the back & it's fair.

Having said that it's 300 tickets which isn't a major problem vs opening it up to circa 5600 supporters club members at the same time as 20k points (+ Cup scheme)

This has been correctly addressed in the citizen trust letter and there's no mention of the 1894 group section.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Well said.

Fair dos but what happened to the paragraphs about ticket pull throughs and corporate / hospitality priority.

I get my away tickets on my own points but there was an opportunity for a bit of balance. Especially on a forum that a few months back had a supporters club hating thread.

I am for priority for season card holders as long at the Trust is not advocating the return of zero attendance requiring season cards. That’s what I have coined “the medallion season card holder” who cherry picks the few best games and is guaranteed a priority ticket at Wembley.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Morning all. Just wanted to flag that we have picked up the concern about this. As an Interim Board, we have sent a letter to the Club this morning seeking clarification and transparency about the situation.

Excellent letter. Good luck thinking you’ll get a reply though.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Morning all. Just wanted to flag that we have picked up the concern about this. As an Interim Board, we have sent a letter to the Club this morning seeking clarification and transparency about the situation.

Brilliant work. This is exactly the kind of reason why we need an independent supporters trust. Finally feels like we have a joined up vehicle/voice that can stand up for our fans.

 

[BillCarlisle]

Same here. I mentioned previously that the club should adopt the system they did for the carabao final- matchday members who attended previous rounds get priority window

We have more than a hundred members in our SC Branch, probably one third of whom we never see. We normally have 40 to 50 on our matchday bus for PL games. For Cup games it's much less, in fact for the Exeter FA Cup Tie we had only 14 (yes only 14) the great majority of us being being cup scheme season ticket holders.
Now, from out of the woodwork, came many of the no-shows who were given priority for the final over most if not all of us who went to those earlier rounds. I would like to hear how the club justifies this sort of arrangement.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Brilliant work. This is exactly the kind of reason why we need an independent supporters trust. Finally feels like we have a joined up vehicle/voice that can stand up for our fans.

Just don’t get upset if any reply from City references the independence of the OSC.

Oh I forgot about the fallout from the Swales Out campaign (that I participated in).

 

[johnnytapia]

This. There’s a bigger enemy out there to direct questions at.
The OSC gets 20% of tickets for every game. We know that. Move on. It won’t change.

Phil that’s apathetic bollocks. If it’s wrong it needs calling out, regardless of how long we’ve known something. OSC getting 20% is fine ONLY if that then goes to members with the requisite points. And it doesn’t. And that’s wrong.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Phil that’s apathetic bollocks. If it’s wrong it needs calling out, regardless of how long we’ve known something. OSC getting 20% is fine ONLY if that then goes to members with the requisite points. And it doesn’t. And that’s wrong.

If you are doing a scorecard for OSCs then you need to take into account building our supporter base, that is the main responsibility of Branches / OSC. I can understand that gets missed in the run up to high profile games.

 

[percypawpaw]

The club and the OSC are totally out of order, supporters who have received tickets without the correct points, cup schemes etc etc is totally unacceptable, but also members of staff within the club taking tickets and handing them over to supporters again without the correct criteria, its all wrong. The club have made fans suffer over the last decade and hence why so many walk away, and here we are again totally upsetting our loyal fan base. This last season they have put crazy restrictions on how tickets can be transferred etc etc, and banning supporters for trading tickets, but this whole debacle is nothing short of in house trading, as fans we cannot allow this to carry on, who ever is in charge of ticketing or whoever makes these decisions within the club should be sacked.

 

[BertM19]

Only count points from say the last 3 or 5 years so younger fans coming through have a more equal chance of gaining tickets rather than losing out to people who accrued points before they were born.

For example you could have a starting point, based on loyalty points as they are, but if those with a high volume of points are now not regularly going, then those who want to can get a head of them in the pecking order have opportunity.

This seems like the fairest way (of a bad bunch) and would stop us getting the dreaded complete pot luck ballot system like the rags and scousers have

 

[carlosthejackal]

We have more than a hundred members in our SC Branch, probably one third of whom we never see. We normally have 40 to 50 on our matchday bus for PL games. For Cup games it's much less, in fact for the Exeter FA Cup Tie we had only 14 (yes only 14) the great majority of us being being cup scheme season ticket holders.
Now, from out of the woodwork, came many of the no-shows who were given priority for the final over most if not all of us who went to those earlier rounds. I would like to hear how the club justifies this sort of arrangement.

Every member of the supporters club I’m in has got a final ticket if the applied for one , I reckon some of them haven’t been to more than one or two games this season.

 

[fathellensbellend]

Do we think the supporters clubs were restricted to 20% because all I have seen is messages where branches got all their requests, well with 400 branches, albeit a lot abroad on average it should be 13/14 tickets each, I am seeing numbers way way above these figures and when I went online at 10am friday huge chunks were also greyed out, where have these gone