I agree with you on him,but he also needs to realise he doesn't have half of the amount of time he thinks he does. He always seemed to be a lick of paint away from giving up the ball in a bad position on Monday.
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Hugo Viana | Director of Football
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crystal_mais
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Also not sure Rodri will be here. If he doesn't commit, I'm sure we will try and sell for a feeAdd Kovacic too. If they all go we'd need two CM's, a right back, and a versatile, explosive forward. I can see it though.
FinallyGoodwin
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Likewise, I agree with you on this but his gametime has been limited. Getting up to speed does not just mean physically, but also mentally and getting back to doing things with precision and quickly. That does tend to come with more game time.I agree with you on him,but he also needs to realise he doesn't have half of the amount of time he thinks he does. He always seemed to be a lick of paint away from giving up the ball in a bad position on Monday.
I'd be lying if I didn't occasionally wince when he was in possession and was getting pressed on Monday though haha.
Time will tell with both of them, but I wouldn't shocked if we ended up cashing in this summer. I get the feeling that Viana is going to be a lot more active in the market in general than Begiristain was, in terms of both outgoings and incomings.
It took two summer windows for Viana’s Sporting to get it right, they went from a team where their fans were attacking their players invading the training ground , to a dominant force in Portugal.
His second summer window at Sporting was where the big changes happend, he has no loyalty he buys what’s best for the team and looks at replacements months before the window opens. He pushed for Amorim who was a coach with potential when the actual Sporting board did not want to take the gamble, but ended up being one of the best in Portugal.
, I still think this summer will be bigger change than we are expecting. More departures and a lot more incoming. Like I said above he finds replacements for players before the actual players leave. So he already at this point knows who’s going and who the replacements are.
Also just to add Viana made eleven out of the twelve most expensive signings in Sporting history.
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CΛL
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Think he’s just rusty, he had it figured out first half of the season, albeit till he looked absolutely knackered and then Rodri came back in and he’s not had a sniff since.I agree with you on him,but he also needs to realise he doesn't have half of the amount of time he thinks he does. He always seemed to be a lick of paint away from giving up the ball in a bad position on Monday.
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Will Man City pay 100m for Anderson that’s the question?
Assuming there is no release clause then I am pretty sure we will have to. Fernandez, Caicedo, Rice, Wirtz etc have unfortunately set the bar for marquee central midfield signings in recent years and we will have to match it eventually.
I reckon we will likely end up with some form of player plus cash deal where it totals £100m+ but in reality is more like £80m + player (e.g Lewis).
John Wayne
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So £81m then? Excellent deal if Viana can get it done.Assuming there is no release clause then I am pretty sure we will have to. Fernandez, Caicedo, Rice, Wirtz etc have unfortunately set the bar for marquee central midfield signings in recent years and we will have to match it eventually.
I reckon we will likely end up with some form of player plus cash deal where it totals £100m+ but in reality is more like £80m + player (e.g Lewis).
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We don't work like that. Once a contract is fulfilled we let the player go if he so chooses.Also not sure Rodri will be here. If he doesn't commit, I'm sure we will try and sell for a fee
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In my time being a football fan I've seen a shift from individual player reputation shifting to a game by game basis, to managers, and now directors of football. A midfielder does an average job in an away draw and some fans want the director of football out of the job for hiring him lmao
BillyShears
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Also not sure Rodri will be here. If he doesn't commit, I'm sure we will try and sell for a fee
AFAIK Rodri will 100% be staying next season regardless of the outcome of contract talks.
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Social media sprinkles fertiliser on fan emotion and encourages reactionary nonsense.In my time being a football fan I've seen a shift from individual player reputation shifting to a game by game basis, to managers, and now directors of football. A midfielder does an average job in an away draw and some fans want the director of football out of the job for hiring him lmao
Yep. Can’t afford to lose him now.AKAIK Rodri will 100% be staying next season regardless of the outcome of contract talks.
Do you think we should go all out and get Anderson and Enzo/Tonali alongside Rodri?
I think the defence is sorted, but midfield worries me big time without bernado in it
pepguardiola'smoustache
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is this just your gut instinct feeling, mate?I get the feeling that Viana is going to be a lot more active in the market in general than Begiristain was, in terms of both outgoings and incomings.
or have you heard things that lead you to feel this?
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Yeah, I wouldn't buy new CBs either, Reis to come back from loan to be Guehi backup is fine. If Khusa starts over Dias next season and Dias gets demoted as a backup I wouldn't mind it at all since Khusa proved he can start against Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool while barely conceding 1 goal.Bettenelli just signed a new deal till 27 recently but otherwise agree with the list.
The only first team players that we’d have replace from there are Bernardo, Kova, Savinho and Marmoush, rest good as gone or inconsequential.
Don’t think we’ll buy another centre half with Reis coming back but could be wrong.
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Did you say the same thing with Liverpool last Summer? Because guess what, it happened. And if we want to be winning the PL and seriously compete for UCL next season, we need all those players.Oh here we go with Football Manager stuff.
The above is totally unrealistic
John Wayne
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Good. I'd rather have him for another year and let him walk for nothing than sell him for £40m this summer. There has been a lot of change, and with Bernardo and Stones going, we need to retain his experience.AKAIK Rodri will 100% be staying next season regardless of the outcome of contract talks.
Right but, what's happened to Liverpool...Did you say the same thing with Liverpool last Summer? Because guess what, it happened. And if we want to be winning the PL and seriously compete for UCL next season, we need all those players.
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They went for mediocre injury prone players and it backfired. Last time we spent a record Summer amount, (Summer 2017) we went on to win 6 PLs in 7 years + UCL on top of it. Jota tragically passing away certainly didn't help the mood of Liverpool players.Right but, what's happened to Liverpool...
The players Liverpool signed last summer weren't considered mediocre or injury prone when they signed them. Kerkez, Frimpong, Wirtz, Isak, Ekitike - they all came with glowing reputations and big potential, lots of potential suitors in the market, and for big money. The same kind of transfer policy you're currently advocating for.They went for mediocre injury prone players and it backfired. Last time we spent a record Summer amount, (Summer 2017) we went on to win 6 PLs in 7 years + UCL on top of it. Jota tragically passing away certainly didn't help the mood of Liverpool players.
This City team is going to finish on about 80-83 points this season and potentially win a cup double. It doesn't need major surgery - just 3-4 additions to keep the team progressing and ticking along nicely. That'll be enough. We've had a year now of wholesale changes, it's time to settle and work with what we have.
We know Stones and Bernardo are going. Ake and Trafford's departures are open secrets. There's a small chance that maybe Reijnders, Lewis, and Marmoush leave if we can find the right buyer. We don't need to be shipping 10 players out and spending hundreds of millions on loads of new faces again, not from the position we're currently in.
Pep has, over the course of this season, built a solid central spine of Donnarumma, Gvardiol, Rodri, Cherki, Haaland. Obviously the likes of Nunes, Khusanov, O'Reilly and Doku have all improved significantly from last season in order to hold down regular starting spots as well. Why throw all that out of the window in one summer?
The team we have is finally settled after about 12-18 months of constant rotation and upheaval. The team we started on the opening day vs Wolves has potentially six players in it that won't be here next year (Trafford, Lewis, Stones, Bobb, Reijnders, Bernardo). We can't just keep chopping and changing on a short-term outlook.
Donnarumma
Nunes Khusanov Gvardiol O'Reilly
Rodri [Anderson]
Semenyo Cherki Doku
Haaland
[Charles]
[Fresneda] Dias Guehi Ait-Nouri
Gonzalez Kovacic
Foden Reijnders Savinho (Maza)
Mukasa
That's all that's needed. As others have said to you, you can't just apply Football Manager logic to real life and expect it to click. Intangible things like chemistry, atmosphere, and routine in the dressing room - that Football Manager tries to include but can't really quantify - are vitally important and if we spend willy nilly it'll never click like it should.