Middle East Conflict

[Monkfish]

I have no doubt that the Labour party's fear of speaking out against Israel is turning people away from them. It is a matter of huge importance to many.

Reflected in the massive swing to reform? The one party that if currently in power would have had us helping King Don in Iran over the last few months

Wonder how not voting Democrat because of Palestine is working out for the left in America

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Reflected in the massive swing to reform? The one party that if currently in power would have had us helping King Don in Iran over the last few months

Wonder how not voting Democrat because of Palestine is working out for the left in America

Doesn't look like voting for "King Don" (mentioned 38,000 times in the epstein files according to the new york times, so highly likely a paedophile) is working out very well for anyone:

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...apart from israel (currently on trial for violating the Geneva convention at the ICJ) and the "greater israel" project of course.

But hey if thats your thing, you salute "King Don" fella.

 

[oldius]

Reflected in the massive swing to reform? The one party that if currently in power would have had us helping King Don in Iran over the last few months

Wonder how not voting Democrat because of Palestine is working out for the left in America

Eh?

 

[The blue phantom]

They’re as bad as the SS. Cunts.

How the fuck can they be this Evil knowing what had happened to their fellow countrymen/women all those years ago. They just seem to revel in inflicting so much death.

 

[SWP's back]

It's one psychopath and i dont see anybody decent defending them.

Don't demonise an entire peope based on the opinions of one messed up individual.

Yes the rest of the IDF and evidence before our eyes really shows them to be upstanding blokes.

 

[oldius]

 

[Scottyboi]

Yes the rest of the IDF and evidence before our eyes really shows them to be upstanding blokes.

"We were just following orders"

 

[oldius]

 

[Metal Biker]

Yes the rest of the IDF and evidence before our eyes really shows them to be upstanding blokes.

Ok

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

The IDF carry on with it’s land grab in Lebanon taking towns, killing the innocent civilians and bulldozing their homes in the town of Toura, plus the same fate for 39 other towns in south Lebanon

 

[oldius]

Surely we are past the point of anyone defending this.
I read that for the first time the US public have a majority in favour of stopping support for Israel. If that is true, it could be pivotal.

 

[lust overlord]

Surely we are past the point of anyone defending this.
I read that for the first time the US public have a majority in favour of stopping support for Israel. If that is true, it could be pivotal.

No.
What is more likely in the short term imo.

Netanyahu will lose his presidency,and the new lot will claim nothing to see here,after a few token punishments,and it'll be all brushed under the carpet.

 

[oldius]

No.
What is more likely in the short term imo.

Netanyahu will lose his presidency,and the new lot will claim nothing to see here,after a few token punishments,and it'll be all brushed under the carpet.

History says exactly this, certainly.
I hope the revulsion of the world brings a different outcome though.

 

[Vic]

It's one psychopath and i dont see anybody decent defending them.

Don't demonise an entire peope based on the opinions of one messed up individual.

It isn't one psychopath. He said "not many of us" see any problem with genocide.

It's become a national pathology. It isn't shared by all Israelis, let alone Jews elsewhere, but it is indefensible, and so now is any military assistance to Israel.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

The current death toll in Gazza runs at nearly 1 person dead for every hospital, school, place of worship, home or workplace flattened, that does not take into consideration multiple bombings shootings, starvation or diseases, there are 350,000 missing people in Gazza, who have been missing for more than a year, presumably under the rubble. the biggest condemnation of the government by Israelis came about because Iran fired back at them.

 

[Don Karleone]

 

[PinkFinal]

His father had just been buried. Then West Bank settlers forced him to dig up the body

The UN human rights office condemns incident as "'appalling and emblematic of the dehumanisation of Palestinians" in the West Bank.

www.bbc.co.uk

Mohammed Asasa had only just returned home after burying his 80-year-old father Hussein when several children ran into the house shouting, "the settlers are digging up the grave!"

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

This is what is wrong with our country, antisemitism is being used as a political tool, just like the previous government used small boats and illegal immigrants as a tool. Divide and conquer distract the public from what’s really going on in the world.

The government has tried to end the Gaza march/vigil that's wants to stop Palestinians from dying every day and allow Tommy Robinson right wing march to go ahead.

 

[oldius]

 

[oldius]

This is what is wrong with our country, antisemitism is being used as a political tool, just like the previous government used small boats and illegal immigrants as a tool. Divide and conquer distract the public from what’s really going on in the world.

The government has tried to end the Gaza march/vigil that's wants to stop Palestinians from dying every day and allow Tommy Robinson right wing march to go ahead.

I think this is absolutely true. It is NOT antisemitic to criticise the vile actions of murderers.
Of course antisemitism exists, just as Islamaphobia exists, but it cannot and should not be used as a fog to deflect scrutiny of heinous acts by the leaders of Israel.
No amount of money being paid to MPs should veer them from the course of justice and right vs wrong.