Federico Valverde

I don't watch them that often, but I know he played well at the Bernebau when they beat us this season. Don't think he did anything special in the other games this year.

It's easy to be swayed by that knock-out game, but I don't remember him doing much when we beat them 4-0 a few years back. It's a team game obviously and we were unstoppable that day, but the signing just doesn't particularly excite me.

Feels like a united signing, just doing it for the name and because it's from Madrid. I know he's highly rated, if we get him we get him, but I think I'd just prefer a younger player on their way up and desperate to prove themselves.
 
Madrid is such a strange club to buy from, they tend to keep their best players as they all dream to play for them (yawn), pay well and win a lot.

Occasionally they buy lots of new up and coming/best players in the market and you might get lucky and get a player that hasn't made it there but still can perform at a high level, or you throw loads of money at a player thats done.

But sometimes because of the circus involved something happens and if for whatever reason Valverde becomes available any club has to be all over it.

They have far too many egos and Jose going there will help control it but certainly will lose a few before.

Would love him here.
 
All for it if only to get him to stop him from tearing us a new one whenever we play them
 
Oggie said:
Alonso left 6 months ago mate but you carry on believing your gossip on twitter. Valverde runs through brick walls for that team game after game.
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It’s obviously an issue they’ve had at that club. There are factions over there. He loves RM but probably didn’t like the coach
 
bhayes said:
No thanks
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Top players have standards and I've always felt Valverde has standards. He's a bit like Fernandinho in that way.. he'll bark at players if he senses a dip in form.

I also remember Kevin shouting at others plenty of times.. and you need a little of that.
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
Top players have standards and I've always felt Valverde has standards. He's a bit like Fernandinho in that way.. he'll bark at players if he senses a dip in form.

I also remember Kevin shouting at others plenty of times.. and you need a little of that.
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He didn't just shout at someone because they had a dip in form. He persistently accused a teammate of leaking info to the press, even after being told to back off. He continued to escalate the aggression in training by flying into challenges and then carried on with the accusations when training was over. Then he got the physical confrontation he seemed to be pushing for and got knocked the fuck out.

We don't need any of that. Real Madrid needed a real captain to step in and deal with the situation properly.
 
ALDN_Ko said:
Looking at the leaks, he and Tchouameni fought because Tchouameni was unhappy with the way he treated Xabi Alonso. Doesn’t sound old school to me
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To me, the phrase 'old school' if applied to RM, conjures up the following connotations: arrogant, self-absorbed and petulant. After their recent skirmishes, I wouldn't touch Tchouameni or Valverde with a ten-foot pole, and for the record, I love the latter as a player, but.....
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
Top players have standards and I've always felt Valverde has standards. He'se a bit like Fernandinho in that way.. he'll bark at players if he senses a dip in form.

I also remember Kevin shouting at others plenty of times.. and you need a little of that.
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I know not many players have come from real to the prem and I'm struggling to remember one who has made a major impact.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
He didn't just shout at someone because they had a dip in form. He persistently accused a teammate of leaking info to the press, even after being told to back off. He continued to escalate the aggression in training by flying into challenges and then carried on with the accusations when training was over. Then he got the physical confrontation he seemed to be pushing for and got knocked the fuck out.

We don't need any of that. Real Madrid needed a real captain to step in and deal with the situation properly.
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Maybe they needed a manager, not a coach. They are so desperate for one who can re-instill some degree of discipline on and off the pitch that they are bringing back that managerial guttersnipe Mourinho. If they do, he will set that club on fire after one season. I hope he lands there so that we can all enjoy the eventual conflagration.
 
Dizbuster said:
Maybe they needed a manager, not a coach. They are so desperate for one who can re-instill some degree of discipline on and off the pitch that they are bringing back that managerial guttersnipe Mourinho. If they do, he will set that club on fire after one season. I hope he lands there so that we can all enjoy the eventual conflagration.
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Sadly Mourinho is looked upon as a joke but not many know the real story:

They were a dumpster fire in the 2000's.. and whatever we think of Mourinho.. his Real Madrid time is his best work.. getting the pieces in place for them to have a sustained time of sucess.

Now as much as I don't like the guy and want him to fail and Real to go through the eventual conflagration.. credit has to be given for what Mourinho managed to do right.
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
Sadly Mourinho is looked upon as a joke but not many know the real story:

They were a dumpster fire in the 2000's.. and whatever we think of Mourinho.. his Real Madrid time is his best work.. getting the pieces in place for them to have a sustained time of sucess.

Now as much as I don't like the guy and want him to fail and Real to go through the eventual conflagration.. credit has to be given for what Mourinho managed to do right.
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The narrative is that he fixed the locker room culture and set them up for their great run under Zizou and since. As much as I destest him, I think that narrative is pretty accurate. However, it's been all downhill ever since, and his fingerprints are all over all of his subsequent failures. He's a highly toxic personality who points the fingers of blame when things don't go well at everyone else at the club, and then he burns the club down to the ground. He was once a brilliant manager, but he couldn't stop getting in his own way.
 
cp64 said:
I know not many players have come from real to the prem and I'm struggling to remember one who has made a major impact.
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Makelele probably the best example of a success story

Özil aswell, personally thought he was the most overrated player on the planet but plenty would disagree with me.
 
Kippax Street 1880 said:
Makelele probably the best example of a success story

Özil aswell, personally thought he was the most overrated player on the planet but plenty would disagree with me.
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Totally forgot about Makelele agreed he made a major difference time flies by that transfer is over 20 years ago now
 
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