Pep to leave at the end of the season

Cigs&Alc said:
Did I say that?

My point is it's a small sample size.
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If you go by the reports, he has had 9 different contracts in his career as a manager. This would be the first he doesn't honour, if he leaves now. It is a valid point to bring up imo.

As an aside, Maresca on the other hand has had 4 and is yet to see one through.
 
Bigga said:
Yeah, I don't understand why people are saying he's leaving when he's never broken a contract, to my knowledge!
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I think he could be, I'm not sure.

Reason being that the amount of questions about him leaving and speculation about who next etc, that would come in the last year of this Pep contract would be insane and potentially distracting for the squad.

He's got a really good relationship with the owners etc, so if he wanted to leave a year early then I'm sure they'd let him. Which makes that final year a bit optional almost.

Like I said I've no idea, but I just wouldn't rule it out.
 
Cigs&Alc said:
Well there's reports that Maresca has the job. Just a matter of when he comes in.
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There are reports that he is 'the only candidate'... IF... Pep should leave early.

Quite different. Don't think they can promise him the job beyond that, and that's why he has been speaking to other clubs himself.
 
Keith Moon said:
If he’s planning to take over a national team, then it’s the perfect timing to start the new job straight after the World Cup.
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It's the shittest time. Wait 4 years to try qualify. 4 years for a chance at 1 trophy. This for a man that just challenged for every single one of 70 trophies in the last decade.
 
ysmsa said:
What the fuck are people on to think, COOP, ahh Peps gone then.
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At this point it is borderline delusional and just refusing to see what you don’t want to see to think he is not leaving. I’ll be here in a weeks time when it’s official.
 
mattcity5 said:
I think he could be, I'm not sure.

Reason being that the amount of questions about him leaving and speculation about who next etc, that would come in the last year of this Pep contract would be insane and potentially distracting for the squad.

He's got a really good relationship with the owners etc, so if he wanted to leave a year early then I'm sure they'd let him. Which makes that final year a bit optional almost.

Like I said I've no idea, but I just wouldn't rule it out.
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Yeah this is my thinking. His final contract at City was always going to be the hardest of his career to simply see out considering how long he's been with us and the enormous impact he's had for us and on the Premier League since he's been here. We can see how much he's hating all the questions he's getting about his future now so imagine for an entire season every 5 minutes next season.
 
Cigs&Alc said:
Did I say that?

My point is it's a small sample size.
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Okay, but it's reported that Guardiola is very upfront with who he signs with; expectations, targets, desired outcome and whether he still has it in him. By all accounts, Guardiola is buzzing. A young competitive team, unexpectedly in the hunt and winning trophies already? I'd like to think I see the glint in his eye that he's close to an almost as perfect a team for the Prem that he could design.

The absolute nonsense in the way the hierarchy of the preceding clubs were run and the media dogs is why he, ultimately, left. The fact he's stayed here 10 years means both parties have trust in each other.

And, yes, why wouldn't City wait on Guardiola who's STILL within his contract? He'll tell the owners when he's ready and doesn't owe that information to anyone else.

Then, and only then, will the club make plans.
 
mattcity5 said:
I think he could be, I'm not sure.

Reason being that the amount of questions about him leaving and speculation about who next etc, that would come in the last year of this Pep contract would be insane and potentially distracting for the squad.

He's got a really good relationship with the owners etc, so if he wanted to leave a year early then I'm sure they'd let him. Which makes that final year a bit optional almost.

Like I said I've no idea, but I just wouldn't rule it out.
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I understand your point, but hasn't the media furore happened since his first initial contract was talked about?

I'm pretty sure the media trot out the "he's leaving" line, every year since. A bit like the "115" every year.

But, even a broken clock is right at some point, and you will have the "I told you so" merchants blowing their trumpets...
 
Matt.D said:
At this point it is borderline delusional and just refusing to see what you don’t want to see to think he is not leaving. I’ll be here in a weeks time when it’s official.
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Why are you so hell bent on trying to convince everyone he is leaving??
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
How is it "very very obvious" Pep is leaving when he said only yesterday he's under contact and will be here next season. Don't you believe him?
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I don't, he either can't keep a straight face when he says it or talks in riddles-read the room.
I wouldn't expect him to say he was leaving if he was as we don't need the distraction.
 
All points to pep leaving now unfortunately.

Hope im wrong but the fact they are even having a parade for a domestic cup double and then the co op element to me suggests it’s big

Unless he signs another contract extension live
 
Cigs&Alc said:
I'm going to try and organise some of my neurotic thoughts regarding this situation.

We know that Pep planned to leave at the end of the 24-25 season. How could he stay after Txiki leaves? We then know he ended up extending for 2 years, which reportedly surprised many close to him.

We know that Pep has always seen out contracts, however, he has never spent more than 4 seasons at any other club.

The club reportedly insists it is business as usual and that Pep is expected to be in charge next season. Does that mean anything? I don't think so.

Why does Pep continue to pedal the "I have a contract" line? Is he avoiding the question or is he reinforcing his principles? He did answer "Yeah" to the question of being here next season but the further response when being asked to clarify was a little weird. Is he taking the piss out of d list journos?

We know that several sources within the first team have stated they expect him to leave and an announcement is imminent. They are of the belief this decision was made some time ago. My question to this is how many would actually know? As mentioned at the start, few seemed to be aware that Pep was signing an extension in 24. They also suggest that the backroom will be turned over some. Could that just be Viana though?

We know that the players, at least judging by public statements, don't know. I don't know what to think.

We know the club has organised plans with Maresca. I don't think that says anything. Great clubs do that.

Why would he want to leave? He's getting paid a packet, he's energised, and according to Sam Lee, has fallen in love with the team.

So many questions?
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That is intersting to read put out like that. Here are my thoughts in return.

We don't and never did actually Know that Pep 'decided' to leave in '24. That was conjecture. As it was the ahead of his extension before that, and the one before that. And as it is now imo.

These collective assumptions that Pep is leaving, come out of snowballed speculation. Based on an expectation of predictability. Add to that that Pep keeps his cards close to his chest and is hard to read, the club stays out of it publicly, and guesses and then trying to reinforce them are open fair game. But Pep just isn't that predictable.

The first time, the expectation of him leaving was because he had only been at clubs 3-4 years before that, so it was easy to expect/predict the same here at City.

The second because he had already 'overstayed' the expectation, so surely that was that now.

The third, because Txiki was leaving, and Pep couldn't possibly function without him. Or under a new director. And he won the lot so there was nothing left for him.

Now, well because it has been a decade, that somehow seems a more logical point than 11 years. Oh and his fitness coach is leaving. And the club seem to have spoken to Maresca.

In terms of guessing based on expectation, there's enough there to have a pop. Which then snowballs, and people end up 'hearing' things around the grounds. But these things may well quite likely be just echoes of the initial assumption.

People still don’t seem to get Pep. He does seem to make decisions impulsively and right at the end of needing to. Or at least commit to those decisions late, waiting it out patiently to be sure. The club heirarchy obviously know this. How many times now have we heard Khaldoon say 'with Pep it will be a comfortable discusdion', without any worry in his voice. Without any urgency, demand or expectation. How many times have we seen Pep himself leave things open ended on his future. I've never taken it to be that he is hiding something, or deflecting. I take him at his word and think even he genuinely hasn't yet commited to a decision himself. He says how he feels in the moment, and if that continues he will stick with it, but he is open to react if it doesn't, and leaves room for this.

But when he does commit, he has seen it through every time. And by my own logic of him not being predictable, we can't take it for granted he will always do that either, but it is still true that to date he has.

And I personally think that's where things are. There have been early guesses, not without reason, but without substance.

And people are now sticking to them and building the expectation on that, and basing the growing speculation on the expectation. Pep is being Pep, the club is being the club. They are both comfortable either way. As should we be imho.

The players one is an interesting angle, as is the Maresca one, but I've already rambled on, so will come back to that in a part2 of my take on it.
 
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