Most think it's down to stupid jurors, dont try and sell a narrative that isnt balanced. You have basically done yourself over though with the very first thing you typed which was :-I don't agree with the verdict but we weren't party to everything and beyond all reasonable doubt means just that-for people to think its some great conspiracy or woke judges, or biased jury members or Starmer is all just hand wringing noise. The CPS decided to drop it after 2 goes.
The airport and armed copper makes it different, not that you care about the thread obviously :-)It's artificially inflated nonsense to drive division and you are all falling for it. Someone gets nicked for assaulting a copper in every town in the country every night and nobody cares apart from the parties involved.
Come off it,we’ve all seen the cctv,he knew they were coppers and what they wanted.Again, missing context.
You have no idea whether they declared arrest or whether they were enquiring.
The jury seems to have had a better answer if they decided a 'not guilty' based on the law, not fill-in-the-blanks wishing.
No, I can say how 'I feel' but I can also understand objectively that the jury's decision is theirs to make in all the circumstances.Most think it's down to stupid jurors, dont try and sell a narrative that isnt balanced. You have basically done yourself over though with the very first thing you typed which was :-
I don't agree with verdict.
You then say you weren't party to everything, if thats your stance then fine but you therefore can't either agree or disagree with the verdict.
Unfortunately people will use this for political reasons but you are doing the same really.
Round and round we go.
That’s how it should work but clearly from the footage the evidence was ignored by at least 3 jurors in each trial, only they know the reason but they’re clearly, biased, dishonest, stupid or all three.
had this have happened over here it would have been dealt with very quickly!!!!I wish these cunts would have committed this crime in other countries, they would either be dead or in prison now.
and that's a good thing?had this have happened over here it would have been dealt with very quickly!!!!
Fuckin right it is, 2 Russians were found dead last week, a right pair of cunts that were warned to stop what they were doing, if you do something bad here the communa will let you know! And the police will do nothing.and that's a good thing?
ok-guess it would free up court time...Fuckin right it is, 2 Russians were found dead last week, a right pair of cunts that were warned to stop what they were doing, if you do something bad here the communa will let you know! And the police will do nothing.
Conspiracy?I don't agree with the verdict but we weren't party to everything and beyond all reasonable doubt means just that-for people to think its some great conspiracy or woke judges, or biased jury members or Starmer is all just hand wringing noise. The CPS decided to drop it after 2 goes.
no,its not utterly lawless, if you do something bad here, there will be justice, just not in court, it works.ok-guess it would free up court time...
utterly lawless, but hey.
even if that were the case, this matter didn't reach sentencing.Conspiracy?
Sentencing & Judicial Guidelines (2025): The Sentencing Council faced intense political backlash over guidelines that instructed judges to normally request and consider pre-sentence reports specifically for offenders from ethnic, cultural, or faith minority backgrounds. Critics argued this created a discriminatory system where background and ethnicity were used to justify differential sentencing outcomes.
but you can't have police killing people just because they have been assaulted-that's not a society we should welcome.no,its not utterly lawless, if you do something bad here, there will be justice, just not in court, it works.
Fair enough, but you can’t accuse folk of being conspiracy theorists when it’s there in Black & White.even if that were the case, this matter didn't reach sentencing.
read Gordon's post and my rambling post above-containing uncle albert war stories-its not black and white.Fair enough, but you can’t accuse folk of being conspiracy theorists when it’s there in Black & White.
no, re read it, its not the polic, its the communa!but you can't have police killing people just because they have been assaulted-that's not a society we should welcome.
It’s Black & White what the sentencing council were trying to implement last year but thankfully they were rightly fucked off.read Gordon's post and my rambling post above-containing uncle albert war stories-its not black and white.
Think he’s talking about the Police in Englandno, re read it, its not the polic, its the communa!
Unlikely - the two times i have been in a jury the jurors had said things like "the evidence may not make them look guilty but look at their face, it takes more than that to make me believe they are innocent' or 'look at his brother watching on, you can tell what the whole family are like' or (my favourite) "I am happy to go with the majority, I have tickets for the festival tomorrow'. - all genuinely true statements i heard when i was a juror. Unfortuantely your average juror is like your average person - IQ 100 - so logically half the fuckers on there are less than 100 and inevitibly two or three are thick as horseshit. And you expect them to sit through often complex trials when they probably have the intellect of a gnat?Perhaps the juries decided on the basis of the evidence presented during the trials. Which is kind of the point of a trial.
haha -my mum sat on a jury and loved every minute-she enjoyed retelling the story of both cases-I was like, well the one you let off (the smart dressed, well spoken one) was clearly guilty and telling a pack of lies and the (scruffy one) they convicted was probably innocent-certainly by the evidence she relayed ('he looked guilty').Unlikely - the two times i have been in a jury the jurors had said things like "the evidence may not make them look guilty but look at their face, it takes more than that to make me believe they are innocent' or 'look at his brother watching on, you can tell what the whole family are like' or (my favourite) "I am happy to go with the majority, I have tickets for the festival tomorrow'. - all genuinely true statements i heard when i was a juror. Unfortuantely your average juror is like your average person - IQ 100 - so logically half the fuckers on there are less than 100 and inevitibly two or three are thick as horseshit. And you expect them to sit through often complex trials when they probably have the intellect of a gnat?
My advice to anyone is - if you are accused of something and you are innocent dont ask for a jury - the judge is far more likely to understand the law and won't think you are guilty because you have a tattoo or shaved head.
if you are accused and you are actually guilty - get a jury - especially if the trial is complex. All you need is a decent barrister to confuse the idiots on the jury. And scrub up well...