Liverpool Thread | 2025/26 | Slot Out (p382)

[GoatersLeftShin]

Everybody fawning over iriola at Bournemouth like hes the second coming, yes he has the potential to be good but he also has the exact same potential to do a thomas frank at spurs, its a complete 50/50 shot.

I think you're right in this.

I've thought for a while that Brighton, Brentford, Palace and Bournemouth are so well run now that their manager almost doesn't matter. Whoever they sell, the replacement comes in and improves them. The managers change but they stay up. They can get some results off top 6 teams.

Bournemouth never struggle when their best players leave. They seem to bring in managers who improve them. They have a great scouting system and have managed to get into Europe this year despite Semenyo going in January.

Frank left a great club and found spurs to be unmanageable - I think De Zerbi will soon find that out too. Potter left Brighton and found nothing but problems. Glasner will probably be another (if he stays in England) to find that Palace was a great club to manage.

If Liverpool knew they wanted Slot out, they should've had their next man lined up and Alonso was the obvious and fans choice. They let him go to Chelsea and he's been overlooked twice now so can't imagine him going there.

Iraola is also going to have to find that players like Van Dyck will only play the way he wants. He's not going to listen to some manager whos best achievements is being runners up in some cups and helping Bournemouth into Europe.

If Liverpool aren't careful, I suspect next season could be very tricky. Of course, he could get a tune out of them but it's not guaranteed at all.

 

[Chris in London]

I think you're right in this.

I've thought for a while that Brighton, Brentford, Palace and Bournemouth are so well run now that their manager almost doesn't matter. Whoever they sell, the replacement comes in and improves them. The managers change but they stay up. They can get some results off top 6 teams.

Bournemouth never struggle when their best players leave. They seem to bring in managers who improve them. They have a great scouting system and have managed to get into Europe this year despite Semenyo going in January.

Frank left a great club and found spurs to be unmanageable - I think De Zerbi will soon find that out too. Potter left Brighton and found nothing but problems. Glasner will probably be another (if he stays in England) to find that Palace was a great club to manage.

If Liverpool knew they wanted Slot out, they should've had their next man lined up and Alonso was the obvious and fans choice. They let him go to Chelsea and he's been overlooked twice now so can't imagine him going there.

Iraola is also going to have to find that players like Van Dyck will only play the way he wants. He's not going to listen to some manager whos best achievements is being runners up in some cups and helping Bournemouth into Europe.

If Liverpool aren't careful, I suspect next season could be very tricky. Of course, he could get a tune out of them but it's not guaranteed at all.

They missed Guehi last year by not being quick enough out of the blocks.

You snooze…

 

[lasereyes]

They were a great team. Nothing supposedly about it. Klopps Liverpool, specifically 2018-2022 was one the best in the world at the time, and one of best ever in the PL. They were amazing, dont try and play down how world class they were. Anyone whos actually serious about football and not petty agendas isn't going to care because they didn't score in a couple of games. Wise up mate.

That is highly patronizing. Your opinions are no different from anyone else's - just an opinion. How about arguing on the substance - you might have more credibility.

 

[danielwood5]

And those who play down how good Liverpool were then are diminishing how good we were too in a way because one of the great things about Cty is we were even better than that Liverpool team.

It's one of the things that winds me up. You see it in boxing all the time, when a fighter loses, they're suddenly overhyped. No, often it's just a fantastic fighter that lost to an exceptional one, that's it. Once you start calling one a hype job and overrated, then how can the the winner be great if they're only beating supposedly overrated people?

Same applies into football

Some of our fans simply can't bring themselves to admit that dipper team were fucking brilliant and would rather diminish our own achievements in turn.

No team that uses diving and thuggery as a key part of their tactics can ever be called great.
The City team that beat them were great because they beat Liverpool on the pitch despite the advantages gained by the dippers diving antics.
Unless you think Salah, Firmino, Mane, Alexander-Arnold, Robertson, etc, etc were all excellent examples of great sportsmen who played the game in the spirit of good sportsmanship and fairplay it was intended?

 

[bobom]

I think Iraola is a decent fit at Liverpool. I wish him well, anyway, I always enjoyed watching Bournemouth in recent years. Played very committed, ballsy football, not afraid of anyone and pulled it off more often than not. Good luck to him.

 

[Gingers Dad]

Sacking a manager who won them a league and had a super hard season dealing with an important player death+ ageing players being finished and key players being sold and not replaced is such a strange and panic move. So much of we are Liverpool we stick with manager until it gets too bad. This is something that I would expect Chelsea to do

YNWA

 

[pmoney]

I think they will even struggle to get top 6 next season, the amount of talent they have lost in the last 2 years and not properly replaced is shocking. Konate, robertson and Salah are off now and they need to do something special in this transfer window.

 

[blue_danube]

No team that uses diving and thuggery as a key part of their tactics can ever be called great.
The City team that beat them were great because they beat Liverpool on the pitch despite the advantages gained by the dippers diving antics.
Unless you think Salah, Firmino, Mane, Alexander-Arnold, Robertson, etc, etc were all excellent examples of great sportsmen who played the game in the spirit of good sportsmanship and fairplay it was intended?

All fans think that of other teams

I'd urge you to go on another teams forum when we play them, a team a bit lower down the table

You might be surprised how many of then accuse us of play acting and how much they think they're not going to get a fair game from the refs when they play us because we are a big team

Other teams fans accuse us of the same things we accused the "red cartel" for.

So the reality is EVERY clubs fans think their team are the good guys, so to speak.

 

[bluetonium]

Slot has written a farewell to the Liverpool fans talking up his time there and saying he's left them exactly where Liverpool FC belongs.

So I guess that's why he was sacked then, if he thinks 5th by the skin of his teeth, with no silverware elsewhere, is going to be sufficient to appease a fan base that regards it's club as top dog.

 

[danielwood5]

All fans think that of other teams

I'd urge you to go on another teams forum when we play them, a team a bit lower down the table

You might be surprised how many of then accuse us of play acting and how much they think they're not going to get a fair game from the refs when they play us because we are a big team

Other teams fans accuse us of the same things we accused the "red cartel" for.

So the reality is EVERY clubs fans think their team are the good guys, so to speak.

Do you honestly think that Salah, Mane and Firmino didn't use diving as part of their gameplay under Klopp?
That Klopp’s Liverpool used playacting and simulation to the same level as other teams in the league and it wasn't a part of their gameplay?
That Robertson didn't play in a particularly thuggish manner and never pushed opponents into hoardings, raked studs down their achilles or rabbit punched opposition from behind with no sanction from referees?
That Salah didn't dive for penalties way more than 99% of players in the league?
Really????

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I think you're right in this.

I've thought for a while that Brighton, Brentford, Palace and Bournemouth are so well run now that their manager almost doesn't matter. Whoever they sell, the replacement comes in and improves them. The managers change but they stay up. They can get some results off top 6 teams.

Bournemouth never struggle when their best players leave. They seem to bring in managers who improve them. They have a great scouting system and have managed to get into Europe this year despite Semenyo going in January.

Frank left a great club and found spurs to be unmanageable - I think De Zerbi will soon find that out too. Potter left Brighton and found nothing but problems. Glasner will probably be another (if he stays in England) to find that Palace was a great club to manage.

If Liverpool knew they wanted Slot out, they should've had their next man lined up and Alonso was the obvious and fans choice. They let him go to Chelsea and he's been overlooked twice now so can't imagine him going there.

Iraola is also going to have to find that players like Van Dyck will only play the way he wants. He's not going to listen to some manager whos best achievements is being runners up in some cups and helping Bournemouth into Europe.

If Liverpool aren't careful, I suspect next season could be very tricky. Of course, he could get a tune out of them but it's not guaranteed at all.

Exactly this.

If you have a well run business with a good culture and strong leadership, people perform well.

What a radical idea!

 

[Betterdeedthan red]

Fuck that

I think Iraola is a decent fit at Liverpool. I wish him well, anyway, I always enjoyed watching Bournemouth in recent years. Played very committed, ballsy football, not afraid of anyone and pulled it off more often than not. Good luck to him.

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I hope the murdering bastards get beat every game.
And he gets sacked by September

 

[GornikDaze]

Fuck that

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I hope the murdering bastards get beat every game.
And he gets sacked by September

Personally I hope he stays and gets them relegated but I don’t want to split hairs ;)

 

[blue_danube]

Do you honestly think that Salah, Mane and Firmino didn't use diving as part of their gameplay under Klopp?
That Klopp’s Liverpool used playacting and simulation to the same level as other teams in the league and it wasn't a part of their gameplay?
That Robertson didn't play in a particularly thuggish manner and never pushed opponents into hoardings, raked studs down their achilles or rabbit punched opposition from behind with no sanction from referees?
That Salah didn't dive for penalties way more than 99% of players in the league?
Really????

Maybe they did but all teams fans say other teams do it.

Why are you right and they're not?

 

[danielwood5]

Maybe they did but all teams fans say other teams do it.

Why are you right and they're not?

You haven't answered my questions.

 

[blue_danube]

You haven't answered my questions.

All teams use cheating tactics such as looking for free kicks and pens

 

[danielwood5]

All teams use cheating tactics such as looking for free kicks and pens

Not what I asked;
Do you honestly think that Salah, Mane and Firmino didn't use diving as part of their gameplay under Klopp?
That Klopp’s Liverpool used playacting and simulation to the same level as other teams in the league and it wasn't a part of their gameplay?
That Robertson didn't play in a particularly thuggish manner and never pushed opponents into hoardings, raked studs down their achilles or rabbit punched opposition from behind with no sanction from referees?
That Salah didn't dive for penalties way more than 99% of players in the league?

 

[blue_danube]

Not what I asked;
Do you honestly think that Salah, Mane and Firmino didn't use diving as part of their gameplay under Klopp?
That Klopp’s Liverpool used playacting and simulation to the same level as other teams in the league and it wasn't a part of their gameplay?
That Robertson didn't play in a particularly thuggish manner and never pushed opponents into hoardings, raked studs down their achilles or rabbit punched opposition from behind with no sanction from referees?
That Salah didn't dive for penalties way more than 99% of players in the league?

I think all teams try to gain advantages by cheating and play acting in similar measures. Some get away with it more than others.

Plenty of fans out there consider Bernado to be a nasty **** who gets away with murder on the pitch. Grealish was considered one of the biggest divers around by other fans.

I'm simply saying every accusation you throw at another team, there's fans from other teams throwing the same accusations at us or any other team.

Everyone is at it and all fans think their team does it less. That's what fans do.

 

[danielwood5]

I think all teams try to gain advantages by cheating and play acting in similar measures. Some get away with it more than others.

Plenty of fans out there consider Bernado to be a nasty **** who gets away with murder on the pitch. Grealish was considered one of the biggest divers around by other fans.

I'm simply saying every accusation you throw at another team, there's fans from other teams throwing the same accusations at us or any other team.

Everyone is at it and all fans think their team does it less. That's what fans do.

Again, not what I asked;
Do you honestly think that Salah, Mane and Firmino didn't use diving as part of their gameplay under Klopp?
That Klopp’s Liverpool used playacting and simulation to the same level as other teams in the league and it wasn't a part of their gameplay?
That Robertson didn't play in a particularly thuggish manner and never pushed opponents into hoardings, raked studs down their achilles or rabbit punched opposition from behind with no sanction from referees?
That Salah didn't dive for penalties way more than 99% of players in the league?

 

[Urzu1234]

That is highly patronizing. Your opinions are no different from anyone else's - just an opinion. How about arguing on the substance - you might have more credibility.

Im highly patronizing and should argue on substance? Substance? Yet you're playing down and refusing to acknowledge a blantantly obvious world class team that won trophies, and played some of the best football the PL has ever seen, all because of your stupid petty tribal agenda against them, and using a couple of 0-0 draws as disguise to drum up some legitimacy for it. Now thats patronizing if you dare argue that's not your motivation for it. Is that the substance you're bringing to the table here and that I'm avoiding to acknowledge? A couple of draws? Thats what brings that Liverpool 2018-2022 team in to question?

I'll say it again. Wise the fuck up. As if you'd give 2 hoots if Pep and City won us the league cup and/or FA Cup in the exact same way. And since we both know fine well that you wouldn't give a damn about it either. That leaves your very obvious hypocrisy as you being even more patronizing to anyone's intelligence and with an ever more a substanceless logic. So dont come at me with patronizing and substance, and worst of all, giving advice on how to be more credible, when thats the crap you're coming up with. I responded appropriately.