Henry Nowak murder

[VOOMER]

Because a religion, or a lack of one, does not make someone good or bad.

This guy is a ****. He’s been jailed. It’s no reflection on his religion, race nor ethnicity. It’s a reflection on his character and him as a person.

If more people understood this then the political landscape would a great deal less full of cunts.

Exactly he is one person, who identifies as being a Sikh. Possibly with mental issues, we can't blame Sikhism for his actions.
And I haven't seen a single post or comment blaming Sikhism.

 

[VOOMER]

Sikhs, in my experience, are a really great bunch of people in Britain. They commit very little crimes and seem to self police their own community. The **** who did it’s ethnic/religious background has absolutely nothing to do with it, apart from the fact he seemed to be obsessed by traditional Sikh knives, but that’s no different than anyone being obsessed with knives and it was his decision, as an individual, to stab someone.

The problem, for me, is that the police officer blatantly took an accusation of racism as being more important than someone claiming to be stabbed. The latter should have been the very first thing they checked, the former isn’t something immediately life threatening. In my honest opinion, and some people might not like this, it’s a symptom of a mindset that is prevalent across our society today. In the attempts to minimise racism, certain individuals have gone too far the other way and a young lad is now a statistic as a result of not being believed because of his background. I understand Alan H saying wait for the inquiry and he’s right of course, but I’ve seen the body cam footage and it’s obvious what’s happened to me.

And thats the real problem

 

[city2]

The poor parents who have seen this terrible video of their 18 son is the last memory they have of him dying in absolute tragic circumstances, this was a cowardly attack on a young man just starting out as a young adult with his future ahead of him.

I cannot imagine the pain his family are going their lives are also ruined forever that could have been anyone of us on here life is so cruel hopefully the killer will never see the light of day. RIP and sincere condolences to his family.

 

[domalino]

And thats the real problem

It’s certainly the problem with this specific case, but we’ll have to wait for the enquiry to know if it’s a systemic issue or just a mistake by this one officer. You can’t work that out from body cam footage.

Public perception isn’t the best barometer - for example people think sentences are getting lighter and violent crime is rife when actually minimum tariffs are longer than ever and the number of murders is at historic lows.

 

[hello]

The right wing aren't talking about it-they are deliberately inflaming it -yet again-they only seek to cause hate and division for their own benefit-it serves no other purpose, because there are processes to follow-not the court of social media.

It doesn't matter what I think led to this-I can use my experience to infer things but not the full picture.
The police did not kill Henry, the coroner said his injuries were too severe to survive.
Do you think after the incident the officers just fucked off home? Most people are utterly clueless as to what would happen after something like this.

Do the right wing ever offer solutions alongside their shit stirring outrage?

I have watched the footage and I do have questions-but so will the IOPC/PSD and senior officers-but once again I will reiterate that officers have to justify the decision to arrest based on law and necessity, moreover, they must justify their decision to use force-handcuffs, and record those decisions-in accordance to law and policy-because not everyone is handcuffed (as it was in my day on the streets).

Officers in my force received 1 first aid refresher a year-do you think that necessarily makes them experts in this area?

Do you understand just how inexperienced frontline officers are nowadays? I have raised this, on here, as a huge risk. You cannot simply run a service into the ground and erode pay and conditions so badly that only kids can afford to join-and they make up the majority of response shifts-often its kids managing kids. Most officers avoid the frontline and get away from it as quickly as possible-because of shifts but also the hugely stressful environment dealing with anything and everything thrown at them every day-knowing that that brings huge risk to their own well being and career if it goes wrong-and you never know when its going to wrong, and never having the time to deal with things properly.

How many occupations face that level of scrutiny? You cannot recruit the best candidates if you offer wages akin to working in a fast food outlet. Now I'm not saying these officers were inexperienced-but its v likely they were.

I see the names of the officers have made been public-do you think that benefits anyone? Again, red meat to the mob and further endangering frontline officers.

I made numerous mistakes in my service-most will stay with me forever. I also witnessed what decades in the job did to friends and colleagues-physically and mentally. The pile on serves no purpose whatsoever-let the processes already in place be carried out.

I will also say that these tragic instances are v rare, but they do happen-some of the things I was involved in people would judge me-but I'd say, you weren't there, or when those things happened to other people, I'd think, 'but for the grace of God'....and I would struggle to deal with some of the things that I was involved in had social media been so hateful and quick to pass judgement as it is now.

The bare minimum we should expect from a police officer is an half decent human being and an ounce of integrity. I've never seen any medical training material recommending dragging across floor, force sitting upright and cuffing as a valid response to repeated statements "I've been stabbed, I can't breathe" Those two failed and unfortunately IOPC has as much public confidence as VAR, its making own homework and is as far from independent as North Korea is from being Democracy.

 

[KPXBLN]

a young lad is now a statistic as a result of not being believed because of his background.

This is not true, according to the evidence given to the trial by the pathologist, quoted by the judge in his sentencing remarks:

The pathologist, Amanda Jeffrey, found 1200 ml, or over 2 pints, of blood [in the chest cavity]. She said that no emergency medical treatment would have permitted access to the bleeding vein. In simple terms, he would not have survived, however quickly he received first aid, CPR or expert medical treatment.

You can find it here at paragraph 16: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

It certainly appears from the body cam footage that the police on the scene massively fucked up, and they deserve a lot of very critical scrutiny, just like all police officers (and other public servants) who fuck up, whether or not in high profile situations or situations involving accusations of racism. But as far as the evidence the court heard is concerned (based on the judge's summary - since neither you nor I were there to hear it in person) their failures did not cause Henry's death.

 

[hello]

This is not true, according to the evidence given to the trial by the pathologist, quoted by the judge in his sentencing remarks:


You can find it here at paragraph 16: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

It certainly appears from the body cam footage that the police on the scene massively fucked up, and they deserve a lot of very critical scrutiny, just like all police officers (and other public servants) who fuck up, whether or not in high profile situations or situations involving accusations of racism. But as far as the evidence the court heard is concerned (based on the judge's summary - since neither you nor I were there to hear it in person) their failures did not cause Henry's death.

Their actions might not have contributed to him losing his life, they certainly contributed to him dying in totally undignified circumstances and neither of them should be anywhere near public service again. The IOPC cover up report should make interesting reading. I'll echo Bert's thoughts to henry's family but as to the 2 officers fuck em. Their lack of humainity properly means they wont have any issues sleeping whatsoever.

 

[Ric]

Tragic case, and the footage is shocking and damning. Respect to his dad for speaking so eloquently and calmly about it, incredibly brave after losing a son in this manner.

 

[KPXBLN]

Their actions might not have contributed to him losing his life, they certainly contributed to him dying in totally undignified circumstances and neither of them should be anywhere near public service again. The IOPC cover up report should make interesting reading. I'll echo Bert's thoughts to henry's family but as to the 2 officers fuck em. Their lack of humainity properly means they wont have any issues sleeping whatsoever.

Yes, but that's not what the post I was responding to was saying. It's very important in a situation like this to stick to what we actually know and/or can provide evidence for.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

This is not true, according to the evidence given to the trial by the pathologist, quoted by the judge in his sentencing remarks:


You can find it here at paragraph 16: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

It certainly appears from the body cam footage that the police on the scene massively fucked up, and they deserve a lot of very critical scrutiny, just like all police officers (and other public servants) who fuck up, whether or not in high profile situations or situations involving accusations of racism. But as far as the evidence the court heard is concerned (based on the judge's summary - since neither you nor I were there to hear it in person) their failures did not cause Henry's death.

This post hits the nail on the head for me. A cut down media version of the body cam footage doesn't show the whole truth.

 

[Carter1990]

The worst part for me watching the video is when the police arrived it was so calm. Nothing chaotic were the police have to act fast. The lad couldn't sit up on his own could barely talk and they handcuffed him. I ve seen better care from pissed up people looking after random people on nights out.

 

[moomba]

The facts are pretty apparent from the footage.

If thats the case it shouldnt be too hard for a proper investigation to establish those facts, and take appropriate actions as a result.

All without resorting to pitchforks.

The way it should be.

 

[Blue Maverick]

The facts are pretty apparent from the footage.

Fuck me mate have you not learnt anything on here, there could be video footage of a man stealing stuff with swag on his bag and him admitting he’s a burglar but people will say we don’t have all the facts like a jury!

 

[Blue Maverick]

Having seen the video and the claims from the family Henry had not been stabbed, I’ve seen reports he gave the knife to his mum to hide, if that’s the case are they getting done for been accomplices?

 

[M18CTID]

When did these riots inspired by Farage start? Must have passed the media by.
What a strange thing to say.
P.S. I'm no fan of Farage (for the record)

I’m glad you’re no fan of Farage but one of the country’s most high profile politicians with a huge social media reach sharing a tweet - from Andrew Tate of all people - containing false information about the background of the Southport killer most definitely contributed to the riots that occurred up and down the country.

And he’s at it again with this case, calling for “pure cold rage”. Seriously, how does that kind of rhetoric help matters? I’m sure we all agree that questions need to be asked but using that kind of language is totally inflammatory and akin to pouring petrol on a fire. It’s one thing hearing that from some bloke down the pub as the conversation doesn’t go anywhere but to hear it from someone who could soon be Prime Minister is totally irresponsible.

 

[bert38]

I'm pleased that you don't. You have a unique perspective that is as welcome - perhaps more so given your experience - as anyone else's.

Doesn't mean that I necessarily agree with you - but I appreciate you taking a deep breath and sharing your views.

I suffer from PTSD from the job-I have nightmares about things I dealt with on a regular basis-I have a particular recurring nightmare about a disabled young girl I didn't save. I suffer incredible guilt about that and staff who were badly hurt-on two occasions nearly costing them their lives. It doesn't do me any favours trying to present a rational viewpoint.

But I also get that police screw up-they are us, and I try to give a balanced argument.

I note that one officer has faced death threats as a result of this incident and been relocated-and it wasn't him. This is how serious this incident is. I fear for their safety over the next days and weeks.

And thank you.

 

[bert38]

The bare minimum we should expect from a police officer is an half decent human being and an ounce of integrity. I've never seen any medical training material recommending dragging across floor, force sitting upright and cuffing as a valid response to repeated statements "I've been stabbed, I can't breathe" Those two failed and unfortunately IOPC has as much public confidence as VAR, its making own homework and is as far from independent as North Korea is from being Democracy.

it isn't marking their own homework nor is it bent.

I spent 2 years being investigated by the IOPC-and I wasn't even on duty when the incident happened.

You've taken the comments out of context-the IOPC won't do that. Everything will be reviewed.

 

[bert38]

No he couldn't have been saved but nobody tried. It's very hard to understand why the perpetrator didn't call for an ambulance as well as the police, when Henry heard the sirens from the police car he must have thought that help was here, poor lad.

As the Judge stated officers called for an ambulance and commenced CPR.

But you make a valid point-why didn't anyone else there intervene or offer help, or call for help, or tell the bloody truth.

 

[Gabriel]

Forgive my ignorance, which is abysmal, but an asp?

 

[Man-chester copperpot]

Let’s for a minute pretend he was not stabbed.

My question is why was he handcuffed in the first place?

Law enforcement officers generally handcuff subjects for the following reasons:

• Preventing Violence: Restraining a subject's hands significantly reduces the risk of sudden attacks on officers or bystanders. [1, 2]
• Deterring Escape: Handcuffing physical movement makes it extremely difficult to flee from custody. [1, 2]
• Conducting a Safer Search: It prevents a subject from resisting, concealing weapons, or discarding/destroying vital evidence before it can be documented. [1, 2]
• Safe Transport: Many police agencies enforce mandatory handcuffing policies during vehicle transport to ensure the detainee cannot interfere with the driver, open doors, or pose a threat during transit. [1]

Is there something he did which led them to handcuffing him straight away?