prestonibbo_mcfc
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I wonder if Blatter will hang around, like an unflushable turd.
Just to show the new bloke the ropes ;-)
Just to show the new bloke the ropes ;-)
FIFA delegates getting their cummupence! Blatter GONE today.
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How's the overall reaction in Ireland? Surely this means they people in charge have to quit now.
http://www.zeit.de/sport/2015-06/chuck-blazer-fifa-fussball-weltmeisterschaft-2022
Germany now accused of been corrupt for the 2006 world cup.
I think eventually it will be revealed everyone in football is corrupt, including the "so called fair" English, allegedly. So maybe everyone should stop moaning and accept the game is rotten to the core when you lift the rug, wouldn't be shocked if some top players take drugs that is covered up !
http://www.zeit.de/sport/2015-06/chuck-blazer-fifa-fussball-weltmeisterschaft-2022
Germany now accused of been corrupt for the 2006 world cup.
I think eventually it will be revealed everyone in football is corrupt, including the "so called fair" English, allegedly. So maybe everyone should stop moaning and accept the game is rotten to the core when you lift the rug, wouldn't be shocked if some top players take drugs that is covered up !
Apparently the Aussies have asked for their money back.
The head of the Aussie FA shed some light on how the process works. He said that FIFA's guidelines for bidders state that the bidders must demonstrate their commitment to the international development of the game. They are advised to appoint consultants to facilitate this process. The Aussies' consultants advised them to make various payments, such as paying travel costs for U17 teams to attend a tournament, grants to develop playing facilities etc which all seemed to be perfectly legitimate. They were also advised to make contributions to various disaster relief funds, where the link to football was indirect. The Aussies did not query this process since it what was exactly the same as they'd encountered when bidding for the 2000 Olympics.
Finally they were asked to pay $4m for a training academy in the Caribbean. They baulked at this but agreed to pay $500k towards a feasibility study. The payment was made to Conacaf, the feasibility study never took place, the Aussies want their money back.
If they try to strip Russia and/or Qatar of the WC, they'll undoubtedly use the Aussie defence. All of the payments they made were legitimate, made in good faith. The corruption was on the part of the recipients. All of the other bidders were making similar payments because that's how FIFA's process worked.
gordondaviesmoustache
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That's really interesting. Thanks for posting.
I suppose the counter-argument would run along similar lines to 'the fruit of the poisonous tree' doctrine.
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Saddleworth2
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Once the USA legal system mangles through this I think ultimately, corruption will be proven to be so deep seated that the legal entity FIFA will be prohibited imo. Personally, I think this would be preferable to simply shuffling the deck chairs and continuing. World football governance needs to be redesigned top to bottom and a far more accountable structure put in place with proper checks and controls. It is obvious that the problems are wider than FIFA and from the charges made so far implicate some of the regional associations as well. How the transition from old to new and the implications for next world cup play out is too hard for my small brain at this time of the morning but sure fellow blues will have clearer ideas....
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Presumably that's how the South African $10m to Warner for the imaginary African Diaspora Legacy fund was also put in place. I suspect we only got one vote for our 2018 bid because we wanted proof that any grants/bungs they wanted from us would actually be spent on real development projects.
That rag **** Dyke should shut his mouth or has he forgot about his watch..
Playing the holier than thou card..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...dragged-into-1-million-Fifa-gift-scandal.html
Camel gob tweeting do the honourable thing Gill step forward for the job? He wont do that he's as bent as the rest of them..
Playing the holier than thou card..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...dragged-into-1-million-Fifa-gift-scandal.html
Camel gob tweeting do the honourable thing Gill step forward for the job? He wont do that he's as bent as the rest of them..
Oh just fuck off.
prestonibbo_mcfc
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He's stopping as vice president though. Suppose in that position he can pass the buck up.
SilverFox2
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Its probable that some of the money went via the Banks who have absolutely no problem in money laundering. Yet again today sees a Bank accepts fines for legitimising suspect money:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/06/04/uk-hsbc-tax-swiss-idUKKBN0OK1FZ20150604
No link to football in that story but it shows that Banks are totally disinterested in where money comes from just want the opportunity to process it through their systems for a fee.
Hope they find something on him then the rag empire will crumble...
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was he head of the beeb when sa vile was still active
inchy14
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We don't need it as the FA has got shit loads already, they'd just prefer to waste it rather than improve the standard of the game in this country.
laserblue
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I'm sure a lot of people on here remember Andrew Jennings, a journalist who for years has been accusing Blatter, his cohorts and FIFA in general of being totally corrupt. He's been filmed repeatedly haranguing the likes of Blatter, Warner and bin Hammam in public, asking awkward questions and making accusations about FIFA corruption. His questions and comments were generally ignored except by Warner and his minders who often got a bit aggressive. He was often viewed as a bit of an eccentric, a man with an obsession about FIFA, Blatter and co but he was like a dog with a bone on the issue and he deserves the gratitude of all football fans for often being a lone voice at a time when everything was being swept under the carpet.
Here's an article from 2002 in which he pulls no punches.
http://mattoid.net/data/SoccerDocsBlatterish/Blatter_most_corrupt.htm
From Soccernet.com Friday, May 3, 2002
How Blatter built the most corrupt regime in sport
By Andrew JenningsIf it wasn't so tragic, you would have to laugh. Here comes the leader of world soccer, demanding 'fair play in the upcoming elections', while his aides tour the globe, remorselessly buying votes with Arab gold.
Blatter: Wants to sack Zen-Ruffinen
(RobertCianflone/Allsport)
If Sepp Blatter, the FIFA president, really is good for the game, as his organisation's slogans claim, then Hannibal Lecter should present Ready, Steady, Cook.
Today FIFA has two chances to pull back from disaster. The executive committee meeting in Zurich, the last before the World Cup, can block Blatter's aim to sack general secretary Michel Zen-Ruffinen, the game's most able administrator. And Blatter must face a vote of no confidence for squashing the internal inquiry into FIFA finances. Both will be knife-edge decisions.
Blatter's allies are beyond hearing common sense or caring about the good of the game. They fear that the profits power brings them will come to an end if Zen-Ruffinen is allowed to speak out today about the black hole in FIFA's finances and sparks a revolt by the national federations. They also fear the contents of a dossier Britain's FIFA man David Will is building about the colossal damage Blatter's years of vote-buying have done to FIFA. So prepare for the worst.
It was never this bad within the International Olympic Committee. When it was found to be corrupt in 1998 it muttered 'sorry' through gritted teeth (with fingers crossed behind backs) and slung out a few low- lifes.
New IOC president Jacques Rogge accepts that the subsequent reforms were cosmetic and has called a meeting to try to further clean up the house. He won't get far - but at least he is trying.
Blatter, although without the uniforms and insignia favoured by past IOC president Juan Antonio Samaranch, now reads from his script. When Samaranch hit trouble he spent millions of Olympic dollars hiring New York spin masters Hill & Knowlton to divert the media.
Blatter has hired the consulting firm McKinsey to rescue him. Its team in Zurich is led by his nephew Philippe Blatter and fans are entitled to ask whether McKinsey is working for FIFA, which pays the bills, or for Blatter?
In the years of Olympic denial Samaranch would stare down allegations with: 'All my members are clean and I trust them 100 per cent.' It wasn't true and he had buried numerous secret, written complaints from bidding cities listing his members' disgusting depredations.
Blatter, likewise, insists: 'We are pretty sound financially and there is more transparency than ever.' Auditors KPMG produce loads of FIFA financial reports. I have read some, with a qualified accountant, and neither of us could figure out how much of the 2006 World Cup revenue has already been squandered.
Blatter is from the same stable as Samaranch. Both were selected by the German adidas company, owned by the Dassler family, in the 1970s as preferred candidates for the highest posts in world sport.
It was never a coincidence that the marketing company ISL, also owned by the Dasslers, acquired the exclusive contracts to make millions out of the rights to the World Cup and the Olympics.
The first major revelation of the sleaze at FIFA was published in April of last year. Under the headline 'A tale of greed, scandal and the men who sold the World Cup', we disclosed how obstacles were placed in the path of rival bidders to ensure ISL, and its German ally Kirch Media, acquired the TV and marketing rights to the World Cup of this year and 2006.
ISL's collapse a year ago cost FIFA huge amounts of revenue and many angry ISL managers know who to blame. They will support Issa Hayatou against Blatter in the presidential election later this month.
Early in the investigations, Blatter's Press spokesman, Markus Siegler, spent an hour in my hotel room gushing about the honesty of his boss. He could not have chosen a more appropriate place. We were in Trinidad, the power base of FIFA's most corrupt official, Jack Warner, with his 35 confirmed Blatter votes from the Caribbean region.
He attacks UEFA at every opportunity but that does not stop him taking hundreds of millions of dollars from the sale of World Cup TV rights in Europe. Blatter ensures he never runs short.
Several Warner-family scams to squeeze money out of FIFA. But one contract mystified us. Until last week.
Warner is a FIFA vice-president, chairman of its youth committee and, last year, appointed himself chairman of the organising committee for the FIFA World Under 17s Championship in Trinidad.
Its budget was scrutinised by the finance committee - deputy chairman, Jack Warner. For this tournament FIFA offered a contract for an intranet, with information kiosks in Trinidad hotel lobbies. It went to an American company, Semtor Inc, at a cost of $1.9million.
Success for a non- Warner company? A victory for fair play?
Semtor submitted its bid to FIFA officials on June 11 last year. Within hours the bid was submitted again, this time direct to Blatter and his loyal finance director, Urs Linsi. It came, by e-mail, from Warner.
Why would Warner lobby Blatter to get Semtor the contract? The answer lies in Clause 5: the payment of a $60,000 'liaison' fee to Warner's son Daryll. That money came directly from FIFA. So Blatter knew that young Warner was getting what some might perceive as a kickback on the contract.
Perhaps Blatter did not know that Jack Warner himself was on the winning team, receiving 'consulting' fees from a subsidiary of Leeds-based TeamTalk, which supplied stories and news to Semtor.
TeamTalk declined to talk about its relationship with Warner and what it paid him, other than to claim it 'inherited' him when it acquired an American subsidiary.
The tide of Warner sleaze that has engulfed FIFA extends to rigging elections at two FIFA congresses. Blatter is now hopelessly compromised. It is not proven that he knew of voting fraud, but he refuses to condemn it and declares the matter closed.
On the disciplinary committee for the World Cup sits Jamaican Football Federation president Horace Burrell, whose only claim to football fame is corruptly putting his girlfriend Vincy Jalal in the empty seat of Haiti at FIFA's 1996 congress in Zurich. Burrell would seem a prime candidate for investigation. Instead, he will judge players next month.
Nor will Blatter explain his own role in the collapse of ISL. Nor the extravagance of his presidential office, the vote-buying through the GOAL development project or the continued payments to at least one executive committee member who was sacked months ago.
One man who has been reported to FIFA's disciplinary committee is Somalian FA president Farah Addo, who earlier this year told about bribes rejected by him - but accepted by as many as 18 other vulnerable African officials - to vote for Blatter.
The man Addo claims was behind the hand-outs to African officials in 1998 and again this year, Qatar's FIFA executive committee member Mohamed Bin Hammam, is not under investigation. Nor will be this week's allegations of a repeat promise from Bin Hammam in Tripoli to African countries.
Blatter claims he is suing Addo in a Cairo court. Addo said yesterday: 'If he doesn't sue me, I'll sue him. We are fed up in Africa with Gulf billion-aires interfering in African affairs.'
By dusk tonight we'll know if good or evil has won the day in Zurich.
Here's an article from 2002 in which he pulls no punches.
http://mattoid.net/data/SoccerDocsBlatterish/Blatter_most_corrupt.htm
From Soccernet.com Friday, May 3, 2002
How Blatter built the most corrupt regime in sport
By Andrew JenningsIf it wasn't so tragic, you would have to laugh. Here comes the leader of world soccer, demanding 'fair play in the upcoming elections', while his aides tour the globe, remorselessly buying votes with Arab gold.
Blatter: Wants to sack Zen-Ruffinen
(RobertCianflone/Allsport)
If Sepp Blatter, the FIFA president, really is good for the game, as his organisation's slogans claim, then Hannibal Lecter should present Ready, Steady, Cook.
Today FIFA has two chances to pull back from disaster. The executive committee meeting in Zurich, the last before the World Cup, can block Blatter's aim to sack general secretary Michel Zen-Ruffinen, the game's most able administrator. And Blatter must face a vote of no confidence for squashing the internal inquiry into FIFA finances. Both will be knife-edge decisions.
Blatter's allies are beyond hearing common sense or caring about the good of the game. They fear that the profits power brings them will come to an end if Zen-Ruffinen is allowed to speak out today about the black hole in FIFA's finances and sparks a revolt by the national federations. They also fear the contents of a dossier Britain's FIFA man David Will is building about the colossal damage Blatter's years of vote-buying have done to FIFA. So prepare for the worst.
It was never this bad within the International Olympic Committee. When it was found to be corrupt in 1998 it muttered 'sorry' through gritted teeth (with fingers crossed behind backs) and slung out a few low- lifes.
New IOC president Jacques Rogge accepts that the subsequent reforms were cosmetic and has called a meeting to try to further clean up the house. He won't get far - but at least he is trying.
Blatter, although without the uniforms and insignia favoured by past IOC president Juan Antonio Samaranch, now reads from his script. When Samaranch hit trouble he spent millions of Olympic dollars hiring New York spin masters Hill & Knowlton to divert the media.
Blatter has hired the consulting firm McKinsey to rescue him. Its team in Zurich is led by his nephew Philippe Blatter and fans are entitled to ask whether McKinsey is working for FIFA, which pays the bills, or for Blatter?
In the years of Olympic denial Samaranch would stare down allegations with: 'All my members are clean and I trust them 100 per cent.' It wasn't true and he had buried numerous secret, written complaints from bidding cities listing his members' disgusting depredations.
Blatter, likewise, insists: 'We are pretty sound financially and there is more transparency than ever.' Auditors KPMG produce loads of FIFA financial reports. I have read some, with a qualified accountant, and neither of us could figure out how much of the 2006 World Cup revenue has already been squandered.
Blatter is from the same stable as Samaranch. Both were selected by the German adidas company, owned by the Dassler family, in the 1970s as preferred candidates for the highest posts in world sport.
It was never a coincidence that the marketing company ISL, also owned by the Dasslers, acquired the exclusive contracts to make millions out of the rights to the World Cup and the Olympics.
The first major revelation of the sleaze at FIFA was published in April of last year. Under the headline 'A tale of greed, scandal and the men who sold the World Cup', we disclosed how obstacles were placed in the path of rival bidders to ensure ISL, and its German ally Kirch Media, acquired the TV and marketing rights to the World Cup of this year and 2006.
ISL's collapse a year ago cost FIFA huge amounts of revenue and many angry ISL managers know who to blame. They will support Issa Hayatou against Blatter in the presidential election later this month.
Early in the investigations, Blatter's Press spokesman, Markus Siegler, spent an hour in my hotel room gushing about the honesty of his boss. He could not have chosen a more appropriate place. We were in Trinidad, the power base of FIFA's most corrupt official, Jack Warner, with his 35 confirmed Blatter votes from the Caribbean region.
He attacks UEFA at every opportunity but that does not stop him taking hundreds of millions of dollars from the sale of World Cup TV rights in Europe. Blatter ensures he never runs short.
Several Warner-family scams to squeeze money out of FIFA. But one contract mystified us. Until last week.
Warner is a FIFA vice-president, chairman of its youth committee and, last year, appointed himself chairman of the organising committee for the FIFA World Under 17s Championship in Trinidad.
Its budget was scrutinised by the finance committee - deputy chairman, Jack Warner. For this tournament FIFA offered a contract for an intranet, with information kiosks in Trinidad hotel lobbies. It went to an American company, Semtor Inc, at a cost of $1.9million.
Success for a non- Warner company? A victory for fair play?
Semtor submitted its bid to FIFA officials on June 11 last year. Within hours the bid was submitted again, this time direct to Blatter and his loyal finance director, Urs Linsi. It came, by e-mail, from Warner.
Why would Warner lobby Blatter to get Semtor the contract? The answer lies in Clause 5: the payment of a $60,000 'liaison' fee to Warner's son Daryll. That money came directly from FIFA. So Blatter knew that young Warner was getting what some might perceive as a kickback on the contract.
Perhaps Blatter did not know that Jack Warner himself was on the winning team, receiving 'consulting' fees from a subsidiary of Leeds-based TeamTalk, which supplied stories and news to Semtor.
TeamTalk declined to talk about its relationship with Warner and what it paid him, other than to claim it 'inherited' him when it acquired an American subsidiary.
The tide of Warner sleaze that has engulfed FIFA extends to rigging elections at two FIFA congresses. Blatter is now hopelessly compromised. It is not proven that he knew of voting fraud, but he refuses to condemn it and declares the matter closed.
On the disciplinary committee for the World Cup sits Jamaican Football Federation president Horace Burrell, whose only claim to football fame is corruptly putting his girlfriend Vincy Jalal in the empty seat of Haiti at FIFA's 1996 congress in Zurich. Burrell would seem a prime candidate for investigation. Instead, he will judge players next month.
Nor will Blatter explain his own role in the collapse of ISL. Nor the extravagance of his presidential office, the vote-buying through the GOAL development project or the continued payments to at least one executive committee member who was sacked months ago.
One man who has been reported to FIFA's disciplinary committee is Somalian FA president Farah Addo, who earlier this year told about bribes rejected by him - but accepted by as many as 18 other vulnerable African officials - to vote for Blatter.
The man Addo claims was behind the hand-outs to African officials in 1998 and again this year, Qatar's FIFA executive committee member Mohamed Bin Hammam, is not under investigation. Nor will be this week's allegations of a repeat promise from Bin Hammam in Tripoli to African countries.
Blatter claims he is suing Addo in a Cairo court. Addo said yesterday: 'If he doesn't sue me, I'll sue him. We are fed up in Africa with Gulf billion-aires interfering in African affairs.'
By dusk tonight we'll know if good or evil has won the day in Zurich.
Shadz69
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Personally I was embarrassed by the reaction of the FAI and the majority of fans at the time and am a little embarrassed about this even if every penny went to the FAI it all seems a little grubby.That being said this is Ireland so Delaney will probably be seen as being 'cute' and so fair play to him getting the money by a lot but this being Ireland he could well lose his job,he is on a huge salary and every few months he seems to put his foot in his mouth over something.
The FAI is basically a FIFA lite as Delaney bragged he couldn't be bribed 'not on my salary' but there are all sorts of rumours about how money is spent by and on the upper echelons of the association and how it trickles down.The debt they carry now is over 50 mil which for a country our size is pretty substantial and they don't even pay all of Keane or O Neills wages,theisa and Trap's were funded by a guy called Denis O Brien.It's a farce.