City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Here a piece by the w4nker Matt Scott. It is just a completely one-sided view on FFP:

I ranted this to him

MR SNOT<

I refer to your latest bile spewing piece about FFP and in particular to your reference to the European Commission's alleged determination to support UEFA in implementing bad la relating to football finances. I have no idea whether you have deliberately omitted the information or you are genuinely ignorant of it but the EU does NOT support the Platini model for those clubs able to sustain themselves and remain financially stable in the long term. Where investment does not threaten the future fortunes of the club, the EU are all fucking for it. So yet again you have misrepresented the situation based on spit and wishful thinking, You really do need to do something about these fantasies. It really is getting pitiful now.

MCFC is generating a local economic revival in a long since run down area and sinking money into jobs and infrastructure. The area around the stadium has been transformed. Thousands of jobs have been created.

You, meanwhile, are a useless, lying sliver of ' shit.


PR

PS, do you realize your corrupt bosses are being led a merry dance in the court rooms of Europe and in the long run, it isn't going to matter what UEFA think.
 
I ranted this to him

MR SNOT<

I refer to your latest bile spewing piece about FFP and in particular to your reference to the European Commission's alleged determination to support UEFA in implementing bad la relating to football finances. I have no idea whether you have deliberately omitted the information or you are genuinely ignorant of it but the EU does NOT support the Platini model for those clubs able to sustain themselves and remain financially stable in the long term. Where investment does not threaten the future fortunes of the club, the EU are all fucking for it. So yet again you have misrepresented the situation based on spit and wishful thinking, You really do need to do something about these fantasies. It really is getting pitiful now.

MCFC is generating a local economic revival in a long since run down area and sinking money into jobs and infrastructure. The area around the stadium has been transformed. Thousands of jobs have been created.

You, meanwhile, are a useless, lying sliver of ' shit.


PR

PS, do you realize your corrupt bosses are being led a merry dance in the court rooms of Europe and in the long run, it isn't going to matter what UEFA think.

Where's the feckin' "Like" button on here...? Nice one Pam...:)
 
I disagree.

I think the argument still stands that it's designed to keep the status quo (as was) ergo to keep new clubs out.
The problem is that the UEFA are finding it difficult to set out a set of rules that stops the likes of us without hurting some of the other big boys (like the two Milan clubs).

They're having to 'adapt' the rules on the fly (under the guise of 'fine tuning' or 'relaxing' then).

If it wasn't the Milan clubs wanting investment, but (say) Parma, or Hamburg etc, they'd not be interested in relaxing the rules, but because it's a couple of big boys in trouble the seemingly principled UEFA stance goes right out the window.

Depending on how you measure it, FFP's only really been active for a couple of years, and already UEFA seem to be claiming all the glory for improved club finances (ignoring the huge improvements in sponsorship and tv deals which have been the real saviour).

I don't actually believe UEFA are against Manchester City per se, simply that the corridors of power are littered with representatives of the old G14 clubs, and their influence on UEFA is so strong that UEFA is effectively doing their bidding. It's those old G14 clubs who don't want newcomers (whoever they may be).

It amounts to the same thing, regardless of whether there is an agenda against us specifically or whether we are just the collateral damage from an arrangement designed to protect the old guard. We get shafted either way.
Brennan has not been given to scaremongering where City are concerned for a long time, and given that we're dealing with bitter, corrupt individuals, I have not the slightest doubt that they'll try and tuck us up again
 
Although we all know FFP is a nonsense we can't argue any longer that it's to keep new clubs away from the top table. In relaxing the rules to help the Milans of this world they would find it near impossible to repeat the trick on another City springing up.

Can't help but think UEFA are digging a big hole for themselves though.
Correct ,they will be in shit street soon,I will tell you something though seriously,I wouldn't take ADUG on in the court of law,don't care what anyone says about how big Uefa are,ADUG's lawyers would wipe the floor with these clowns,they always get what they want.
 
It amounts to the same thing, regardless of whether there is an agenda against us specifically or whether we are just the collateral damage from an arrangement designed to protect the old guard. We get shafted either way.
Brennan has not been given to scaremongering where City are concerned for a long time, and given that we're dealing with bitter, corrupt individuals, I have not the slightest doubt that they'll try and tuck us up again[/QUOTBut I
It amounts to the same thing, regardless of whether there is an agenda against us specifically or whether we are just the collateral damage from an arrangement designed to protect the old guard. We get shafted either way.
Brennan has not been given to scaremongering where City are concerned for a long time, and given that we're dealing with bitter, corrupt individuals, I have not the slightest doubt that they'll try and tuck us up again
Don't worry on that score mate. Our owners are too strong. The lily livered, weak bureaucrats at FIFA and UEFA have discovered that. And they have to accept the tide.
 
I ranted this to him

MR SNOT<

I refer to your latest bile spewing piece about FFP and in particular to your reference to the European Commission's alleged determination to support UEFA in implementing bad la relating to football finances. I have no idea whether you have deliberately omitted the information or you are genuinely ignorant of it but the EU does NOT support the Platini model for those clubs able to sustain themselves and remain financially stable in the long term. Where investment does not threaten the future fortunes of the club, the EU are all fucking for it. So yet again you have misrepresented the situation based on spit and wishful thinking, You really do need to do something about these fantasies. It really is getting pitiful now.

MCFC is generating a local economic revival in a long since run down area and sinking money into jobs and infrastructure. The area around the stadium has been transformed. Thousands of jobs have been created.

You, meanwhile, are a useless, lying sliver of ' shit.


PR

PS, do you realize your corrupt bosses are being led a merry dance in the court rooms of Europe and in the long run, it isn't going to matter what UEFA think.

Don't raise to it, nice work though.
 
Anyone who takes the piss out of HRH Mansour and Khaldon are taking a huge and stupid risk.

Watching Mr Khaldoon's end of season interview, it was very easy to see his utter contempt for UEFA.

If UEFA stop City progressing the project in any form in the coming months and years, hell will be unleashed by the aforementioned.

I hope Ms Gill and Platini have all the business transactions in order, because your time is comming....
 
Anyone who takes the piss out of HRH Mansour and Khaldon are taking a huge and stupid risk.

Watching Mr Khaldoon's end of season interview, it was very easy to see his utter contempt for UEFA.

If UEFA stop City progressing the project in any form in the coming months and years, hell will be unleashed by the aforementioned.

I hope Ms Gill and Platini have all the business transactions in order, because your time is comming....

I'm not sure we aren't getting a bit too excited, let's wait and see what comes.

BUT - I've been surprised that no one in authority has raised a question about the cosy club that got together to stitch us up in the first place. What was it the FBI said about FIFA? Racketeering and corruption.

No?
 
I really haven't studied the revised FFP rules, or assessed the potential impact on City, but assuming the worst case that City are effectively confined to remain within FFP1 rules, at least for the foreseeable future, whilst others are allowed to feast, then I would still be heartened by the fact that:

- our revenues are at such a level now, and rising, that we could effectively still sustain a hefty level of spend and remain within FFP;
- our esteemed Chairman's categorical statements supporting the above, as well as his awareness of UEFA' 'ahem' fickleness when it comes to City (know thine enemy etc.);
- It has always been in our plans to be self-sustaining, and looking at the upward trajectory (sorry for using that word), we are going to reach that point sooner rather than later;
- we have as good if not better chance of cultivating our own players, and attracting some of the best players in the world, given the state of the art facilities and services of the CFA. FFP might become irrelevant for us very soon, if it hasn't already;
- FFP I firmly believe has a limited shelf-life, and therefore let the corrupt bastards at UEFA lap it up - we'll see who has the last laugh.

Off course, I might just be sticking my head in the sand singing tra la la.....









.....but I don't think so
 
I'm not sure we aren't getting a bit too excited, let's wait and see what comes.

BUT - I've been surprised that no one in authority has raised a question about the cosy club that got together to stitch us up in the first place. What was it the FBI said about FIFA? Racketeering and corruption.

No?


Our owners don't do excited, they are 100% professionals, hence why UEFA should be concered if they are changing the rules to thwart MCFC intentionally.
 
I bet our lawyers will be looking at the new toolkit very closely when it comes out.

Wouldnt surprise me if as well as changing the rules going forward we'll see some retrospective changes as well.
 
My understanding was that we were restricted to some degree until 2016 under the old, illegal system.
The new, illegal system, that relaxes the rules somewhat means that we are restricted until 2019!
New rules not applying to clubs operating under a settlement until 3 years after the settlement ends.
UEFA really are taking the piss. We should have fought this out in the courts 12 months ago.
 
I really haven't studied the revised FFP rules, or assessed the potential impact on City, but assuming the worst case that City are effectively confined to remain within FFP1 rules, at least for the foreseeable future, whilst others are allowed to feast, then I would still be heartened by the fact that:

- our revenues are at such a level now, and rising, that we could effectively still sustain a hefty level of spend and remain within FFP;
- our esteemed Chairman's categorical statements supporting the above, as well as his awareness of UEFA' 'ahem' fickleness when it comes to City (know thine enemy etc.);
- It has always been in our plans to be self-sustaining, and looking at the upward trajectory (sorry for using that word), we are going to reach that point sooner rather than later;
- we have as good if not better chance of cultivating our own players, and attracting some of the best players in the world, given the state of the art facilities and services of the CFA. FFP might become irrelevant for us very soon, if it hasn't already;
- FFP I firmly believe has a limited shelf-life, and therefore let the corrupt bastards at UEFA lap it up - we'll see who has the last laugh.

Off course, I might just be sticking my head in the sand singing tra la la.....









.....but I don't think so

While I think it's more than a bit rich that UEFA are seemingly going to allow clubs to follow a model that City have been punished for, I'm in agreement with that post. I was surprised at the negativity of Brennan's article because, going forward, I don't think we need (or want) to apply to UEFA for special dispensation to embark on a spending programme that is over and above FFP limits. Our ever-increasing revenues should allow for a large net spend each summer transfer window and still stay comfortably within the regs.
 
I've just been thinking about this and how the Milan clubs seem to have been the main instigators of this change according to Platini. I'm not sure this has been mentioned but there's an interesting angle regarding those clubs insofar as Inter being sanctioned recently under the original FFP rules so surely that means they're restricted until 2019 as well?
 
I've just been thinking about this and how the Milan clubs seem to have been the main instigators of this change according to Platini. I'm not sure this has been mentioned but there's an interesting angle regarding those clubs insofar as Inter being sanctioned recently under the original FFP rules so surely that means they're restricted until 2019 as well?

In a word MAFFIA they probably made him an offer he could not refuse
 
In a word MAFFIA they probably made him an offer he could not refuse

Seriously though, if Inter are indeed one of the clubs that were campaigning for a relaxation in the regs then you have to ask what these new proposals do to benefit them given that they already been sanctioned under the old rules and therefore under the same restrictions as all other clubs that have been punished.
 

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