Plan "B"

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I was day dreaming as you do! and I was managing city as you do!

we came across a team and couldn't break the stubborn defense so, I switched to plan "B"......
but then I realized, I don't know what plan "B" actually is.

lately everybody is talking about this plane "B" and how it is different from last season when we didn't have plan "B"...

I thought it might be worth a discussion ...

lets say we are playing our 4-2-3-1. for the sake of argument lets use popular lines of dinho-Yaya behind KDB-Silva-Raheem behind Aguero.

we play our possession style and can not break an organised defensive 10-man-behind-the-ball team, what is our plan "B"?

-switching position between Silva , Raheem and KDB is not a different strategy. it might confuse them but it is not a tactical move that changes the game. I assume we will be switching them around in our line up regularly to confuse teams in first place.

-bringing in Bony for a midfielder and switching to 4-4-2 of Yaya-Dinho Silva-KDB Aguero-Bony
this sounds like a tactical switch but, in reality we will be still trying to do the same. keep possession around the box and try to thread the ball through using Silva and KDB. the only different is now we have two forwards. we have tried this in past and it hardly have made an impact.

a plan "B" for me would have been something in lines of having two wingers (not like Navas) that actually can cross the ball into the box and a tall strong forward good in air (Beast would have fit the bill). so we could take out Aguero, KDB, Raheem for example and bring in wingers and big forward and start playing balls over the defense. this would actually give them something totally different to deal with.

All of this were just my brain storm and an example. I know you guys have hundreds more.

I am just trying to pick your brains and actually understand what everybody means with PLAN "B"?
 
There is no "Plan A".

We have a central core, around which the rest of the team operates in an amorphous way, reacting dynamically to any given set of circumstances as the game evolves.
 
Ducado said:
It's a good question as is if you were the opposition manager how would you stifle us?
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by the look of it (from last couple seasons) there have been two approaches against us that have led to good result for opposition managers

1- pressing us high with lots of energy, pack the mid-field and over run our mid field 2.
2- defend with two lines of 5 and 4 and capitalize on odd counter attacks with the lone striker.

we never had an answer to it. we were all longing for this mythical plan "B"
 
kawkav said:
by the look of it (from last couple seasons) there have been two approaches against us that have led to good result for opposition managers

1- pressing us high with lots of energy, pack the mid-field and over run our mid field 2.
2- defend with two lines of 5 and 4 and capitalize on odd counter attacks with the lone striker.

we never had an answer to it. we were all longing for this mythical plan "B"
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Watford tried option 2
 
1961_vintage said:
There is no "Plan A".

We have a central core, around which the rest of the team operates in an amorphous way, reacting dynamically to any given set of circumstances as the game evolves.
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first gotta admit I had to do couple Google searches before I could understand your post :) way above my language level .

the core is still the same as last season, the rest of the team hadn't changed for the past four games, bare sterling for Nasri. yet we blow everybody out of the park.
even in our 13-14 free scoring times we failed to beat chelski. this time around, man o man.

what you said, as poetic as it sounds, can not be the complete plan
 
Stick Mangler and Bony up front with Sergio and Sterling running off them and Silva, Kolarov, Yaya and Vinny playing quarterback. Dinho and Zaba mopping up.
 
Clubs, in all reality, rarely have a plan B as this would suggest a completely different philosophy. For example Barca would not dream of removing Messia and undertaking the tactics you have suggested.

In reality our 'plan B' is more a subtle change of personnel and formations. This team is already much more flexible than last season. Sterling, De Bruyne can play a number of roles and this also allows David Silva's skills to be best served dependent upon the flow of the game.

So in essence 'our plan b' will be playing two strikers, rotating sterling, KDB, Silva.
 
watford blocked of the left side where most of our attacks come from.So we switched sterling up front and silva wide and bobs your uncle.We have so many options in attack that its gonna be hard for teams to stop us.
 
Plan B depends on the circumstances.

Against Watford, a Plan B involved moving Merlin (and his 3 markers ) out to the right at half time and putting Sterling in the middle.

We scored before most people had stopped queueing on the concourse.
 
kawkav said:
by the look of it (from last couple seasons) there have been two approaches against us that have led to good result for opposition managers
1- pressing us high with lots of energy, pack the mid-field and over run our mid field 2.
2- defend with two lines of 5 and 4 and capitalize on odd counter attacks with the lone striker.
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Most teams so far this season have gone for the 2nd tactic against us which I feel is a mistake. We have enough quality that we'll usually score sooner or later against them.

I think we tend to struggle much more when teams go for the first tactic. We usually end up funnelling the ball back to our defence who then lump it forward and we lose possession. Very few teams can keep this going though for 90 mins though. It will be interesting to see how we cope with it this season when a team gives it a go.
 
I like this topic.

I've wondered about this ever since Mancini used to bring in DeJong and push Yaya forward at about the 70 minute point of a game where we hadn't broken through.
 
Chris in London said:
Plan B depends on the circumstances.

Against Watford, a Plan B involved moving Merlin (and his 3 markers ) out to the right at half time and putting Sterling in the middle.

We scored before most people had stopped queueing on the concourse.
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exactly, it worked fine, because it happened so fast. if they had the chance to re-arrange, it might have been harder.

I guess THE first goal is very crucial to our game as it forces teams to open up. unless they rather lose 1-0 than to try and equalize.

this is where we struggled in the past. the first goal didn't come soon enough.

so called plan "B" should be for the times where we need a goal at any cost. when we need to break the dead-lock
enforce the game
 
Chris in London said:
moving Merlin (and his 3 markers )
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Back in the dark days, could you ever have imagined a City player so talented that he needed 3 players to man mark him? and have other options on the pitch almost as good. We really are living the dream.
 
stony said:
Back in the dark days, could you ever have imagined a City player so talented that he needed 3 players to man mark him? and have other options on the pitch almost as good. We really are living the dream.
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Wanchope when he was on form took 3 :)
 
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