The Derby Post Match Thread

[cleavers]

We are more talented that the Rags but they are not a poor side. They are a very expensively assembled side with a capable manger, a generally good defensive record and playing at home at virtually full strength.

That you think we had 4 or 5 players below par, in addition to 5 players who could easily have started the game, just makes the point all the better.

Again spot on, they might not be as good as us, but van gaal has them very well organised which is why the sum of their parts is better than the talent they have at their disposal, and why they are only 2 points behind us.

We can go back to all out attack next week, when the risk is far smaller, toady we went to OT to nick that game, soaking up whatever they threw at us, and try to hit them on the break, we weren't far off either, but not dropping three points to them was very important, and it was achieved.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

Not a criticism but I never heard Fernando mentioned was he good or bad ?

 

[dickie davies]

Summing the game up in one word "Manciniesq"

 

[prof-taf]

Dug in well.
like a marriage going nowhere city and yaya need an amicable split in january

 

[CC1]

So its NOT half then.Now who`s missing something ... an abacus board. ;)

I don't want a fight mate. I just don't agree with you. I think it's a good point but feel so sorry for you and hope you get over us only getting a point.

 

[oakiecokie]

Tell me how Chelsea won the title last year. Did they go out & try to win against title rivals when away from home? Nope they went & ground out a draw - boring but sensible. We win at home against United & we get 4 from 6 against them. 4 from 6 against rivals is always a good return. You don't have to win every match to win the title.

You can claim United are a poor team, but they're not that bad, there's a reason they could have gone top with a win today. And yes of course our squad is stronger, but a point away at a title rival, in a derby where form goes out the window half the time anyway, is not a bad result.

As for everyone playing poor.. Do you really think we went out for a win today? Looked clear to me from the off our number 1 priority was not to lose, then if we could nick it on the counter then its a bonus. The guys doing all the work today were our back 6 guys & all except Kolarov were great defensively for me. Surprised Pellegrini went for this tactic as it didn't seem in his locker, but he obviously set out to be solid & the team achieved that.

Show me where I`ve stated this ????

 

[Rammy Blue]

Spot on about Yaya. I feared that would be the case and he was a passenger.

Overall I'll take the point. I'm a bit disappointed Pellegrini didn't go for it in the second half. I'd have hooked Toure not Sterling and move Kevin into the middle.

Fernando, Fernandinho, and Otamendi were excellent.

Problem with the Ferns though is that neither of them can conduct the orchestra, hence why we kept giving the scum the ball back. We needed Yaya deep to be moving the ball about.

Never going to be easy without Merlin, happy with the point and we move on.

 

[Utter bobbins]

I understand where you are coming from but the rags were shite !!

They set up to stop us playing they killed the game

 

[SWP's back]

I truly am shocked that people actually think that was a "good point" today.For me it was two points dropped as its so clear that we have the stronger squad but we had players who turned in some terrible performances today.The defence were superb,as was both Ferno and Nandi,but we can`t carry on with 4-5 players being so below par.
They were there for the taking and I am sick of the piss poor excuses that we didn`t win because we had two of our best players missing.We had enough quality to turn in a better performance against a truly bog standard team.
Obviously my expectation are higher than some Blues on here.
A point away against a poor team is not in my opinion a "good point" but two dropped.
But carry on all you happy clappers.

It was a great point. Chelsea last year were more than happy taking one point away in the "big" games. And we did that missing our heart beat in our two best players.

It showed Peller's can change things up and has tactical nous.

United aren't a bog standard team by respects.

I think you're just on your period again. Either that or just so much more of a big blue than the vast majority that think you need to wipe your Fanny.

 

[mosssideblue]

So glad it's over. We miss Silva massively and KDB won't play worse for a while I hope.

To be fair on him, everytime he got the ball, he had three to contend with. Manure could afford to do that today as we lacked quality elsewhere. If Kun and Merlin were on the pitch, they would only be able to singularly mark him.

 

[SWP's back]

Really !! You class them as a good side.Thats not with Blue Tinted specs on.Have a look at the United thread time and time again.Virtually every page is awash with negatives about how poor they are and now we get a point and all of a sudden the fucking happy clappers are delighted.
They were there for the taking but too many players were well below par today.

You base your opinions on United's team on the united thread on here? Lol.

 

[CC1]

Well with your initials you`re the one whos nicked the fucking name !!!

why do you make everything a slanging match? Just off to enjoy the fact we are top of the league after getting a good point away from home.
You stay on here venting your spleen

 

[oakiecokie]

I don't want a fight mate. I just don't agree with you. I think it's a good point but feel so sorry for you and hope you get over us only getting a point.

As I said my expectations are obviously higher than most.Over the years I have seldom slagged off a City performance but that truly was awful today from KDB,Yaya,Sterling and with Bony virtually starved of any decent service its just as well the defence and Ferno and Nandi were up for the fight.

 

[meeesh]

Is dinhi banned for the palace game ? Wasn't that his 5th booking?

Yea mate misses Wednesday,which he probably would have anyway to be fair

 

[thecitydweller]

turtle moaning they should have had one too although I thought the United player played for it. The Ottamendi one was one of those you rarely get and our players didn't make a fuss.

Difference in class the yellows we got was coz they made the most of the tackles they did the same kinda tackles but our players get up and play on. As for pens I've seen ours given 33% of the time and theirs hardly ever as he played for the pen. I'm not saying we deserved to win as our attackers were poor and outnumbered today but also sterling got nothing off clatternburgh were as martial got everything so sagna couldn't give him the same treatment sterling got.

 

[oakiecokie]

You base your opinions on United's team on the united thread on here? Lol.

And your point being.Well its not really a point is it.

 

[jayblue]

You think Arsenal will win it on the basis of a gritty draw without our best players? I've heard it all now.

I'm basing it on the fact that I think arsenal look a more dangerous side at the minute. I'm glad you've heard it all.

 

[remember arthur mann]

They set up to stop us playing they killed the game

The "Special One" already running the rags !!

 

[paulchapo]

I haven't seen the game but it sounded quite dire from all the reports. Turtle had this to say,was he right?

Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal: "It was a very tough game for both sides. We were unlucky, they were lucky.

"We had 90 minutes control of the game against a side like Manchester City. I cannot complain. But you want to win and we did not.

"We should have had a penalty on Ander Herrera. It is easy to see for me but I have a replay. The referee has one second.

"I always say we need the modern technology but I am the only one in the desert calling for it."

I am worried we are too light up front this season and i know it is fairly early days but i just don't think Bony suits our style of play at all.Happy we are top after a fairly tough start and the injuries,bedding new players in.We need to work an a system that gets the best out of Bony when Aguero is missing or move on and get a replacement.

 

[simon23]

happy with the defensive side of our game today....and without sergio, silva and nasri we are going to struggle creatively.

i don't think MP could have done much more today as he knew if he had played a midfield two of yay and one other we would have been over run....

Yaya further forward doesn't really work any more BUT i don't think he had any other option ..if he hadn't have played yay utd would have had even more confidence just to poor forward and though Yaya didn't really do much (though he had our best chance) he kept them mindful.

the only other option would have been to play

hart

back 4

navas ferd yaya sterling

kdb

bony

but i think that may have been too weak defensively as yaya and KDB don't offer that much in terms of that

i don't think the option of playing KDB upfront was a good one to as he wouldn't have fared any better than bony

I really think MP did well today and I don't think he hd much other option to be honest due to injuries to key players.