Attacks in Paris

Ric, you're right & I for one will not be bringing any more politics into this thread. We're all blues, decent human beings and not murdering scumbags.

I think we should all forget right or left tonight. Young people at football matches and concerts are being attacked. It is wicked and decent people of all political and races need to help find an answer in the aftermath, this can't go on.
 
As I said before, but you didn't reply. There is no one spokesman for Islam, because there are many factions of Islam. No one can claim to speak for Islam because there are different interpretations of it all over the world. However, ISIS do represent their version of Islam and are doing their best to enforce it on others. Just because they don't represent your version of Islam doesn't make your version the "true religion" just as it doesn't make theirs the "true religion" although no doubt both of you would argue that you were right and the other wrong.
That's the thing isn't it? The way the Quran is interpreted by Jihadis. They outright say that it is a fundamentalist religion where all infidels shall be killed. You can look back at the genocides of Berbers, Assyrians, Armeinans and Greeks by the Ottoman Empire in the name of Islam...even the very first years of Islam saw the Meccan 'pagans' being talked about with "but when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)". They believe this and many other sentences in the book to be telling them that to be Jihadi is what Islam is supposed to be. Others might well interpret it differently but they believe what they read to Quran as to be exactly what Muhammed wanted of Islam.
 
Don't waste your time Pam. Internet tough guy following a woman around on the internet in order to insult her.

Hardly following her and insulting her. Just pointing out how narrow minded and knee jerk her reactions are. She would probably nuke a whole country based on the actions of a few if she could. That is the point im making.

Now if I called her short sighted and idiotic, then that would be an insult. I'm not saying she is, but she is.
 
R.I.P

Time to nuke these ISIS feckers.. when will we declare war!? how many more lives have to die before the government infiltrate the area? we need to fight fire with fire with these cunts.. the families..

bye bye Euro's in Paris!?

Right yeah - a nuke will sort it.................... tsk tsk
 
This thread is surely not the time or place for this, let's agree to disagree. My point is that if I had been born in Spain (entirely possible) I would still consider myself 100% English. I'm sure those scumbags didn't consider themselves English even if they were born here.
It's pertinent to those saying shut the borders. Germaine Lindsay was of Jamaican origin and wasn't even born a Muslim. Hasib Mir Hussain was a second generation Briton, meaning his parents were born here as well. The other two were first generation Britons but grew up living entirely ordinary lives. Something happened to these four boys to turn them into religious fanatics and murderers. That's the thing we have to tackle, which we can probably do reasonably well in this country but when people can log onto the internet or hop on a plane to Karachi then there's little we can do ourselves.
 
There was an attack on the Twin towers before 9/11 (1993) ...a lorry bomb from what I remember

Yeah it was a van or a truck driven into the underground parking garage and then set off - lots of smoke - not sure about any deaths but obviously hitting the bottom failed so next time they went higher up
 

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