A quick question for "singing" block(s)

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Eccles Blue

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At the start of the season some people moved allegedly to sing & create an atmosphere. What happened today? I asked someone who moved into that area & they said something along the lines of there was no point in singing we were losing!!!

To my mind that is the time when we need to sing & sing extra loudly for the team. Remember: "We're Man City we fight to the end". The team need us more when they are losing surely? I was shouting (I can't sing) in my seat so loudly that people were staring at me as if I were mad.

So my question is: WHERE THE HECK WERE THE SINGERS????????



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Eccles Blue said:
At the start of the season some people moved allegedly to sing & create an atmosphere. What happened today? I asked someone who moved into that area & they said something along the lines of there was no point in singing we were losing!!!

To my mind that is the time when we need to sing & sing extra loudly for the team. Remember: "We're Man City we fight to the end". The team need us more when they are losing surely? I was shouting (I can't sing) in my seat so loudly that people were staring at me as if I were mad.

So my question is: WHERE THE HECK WERE THE SINGERS????????



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I think the state of shock that most were in rendered vocal chords pretty useless when it went to 3-0
 
Eccles Blue said:
But that is my point: then is the time the team need our support. I was just as much in shock but still managed to use my vocal chords!! (I mean no offence GornikDaze)
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Where you at spurs 3-0 down? Not singing and half the crowd leaving worked a treat. But like most London aways then there was little singing, just fans watching football.
 
GornikDaze said:
I think the state of shock that most were in rendered vocal chords pretty useless when it went to 3-0
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One of the nosiest we've ever been was 0-4 after about 1/2 an hour against arsenal at MR, it was ironic obviously, but at least we still got behind the team, no matter how shit it was. Today there was little or no "support", people near me left at 0-3, that's with 60+ minutes to go, f*ck knows what has happened to our support, there were as many empty seats at the end today as there at the end of beating Newcastle 6-1, and both are pretty sad stats really.
 
There was some defiant singing around where i was especially the old ''We never win at home''....song but yes i agree most fans were in shock. 0-3 down after 32 minutes and the dippers looking like they would score every time they went forward stunned the place into silence for a while. The singers block made a big thing about it happening and good on them for that but i agree today they could have done more.
 
Corky said:
Where you at spurs 3-0 down? Not singing and half the crowd leaving worked a treat. But like most London aways then there was little singing, just fans watching football.
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In February 2004? No unfortunately I was in Australia but was kept up to date via text from a friend!
It just intrigues me, genuinely, as to why, after all the fuss about moving seats, the singing stopped when it was most needed.
 
Eccles Blue said:
In February 2004? No unfortunately I was in Australia but was kept up to date via text from a friend!
It just intrigues me, genuinely, as to why, after all the fuss about moving seats, the singing stopped when it was most needed.
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If you make a section bigger you dilute it. The crowd leaving and making zero sound had a positive affect in the game above, so it hard to say what was most needed.
 
Our fans are shit.
We have shit songs/chants.
We only make any kind of noise when we're winning, and even then it's the same old monotonous chants.
 
It's not working.

I've had too many scoops to post a rational and sensible explanation from my point of view. Maybe tomorrow once I've got my head around the result on the field, and the apathy on the terraces.
 
jrb said:
It's not working.
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It isn't, but it never will when we're 0-3 after 30 minutes jrb. Even a rendition of "City are back" might have lightened the mood a bit today, but we've lost our self depricating humour, it would have been something, anything. Also in 314/315 where I am there's plenty singing, but we can't hear the lower 2 tiers at all, and still we end up singing different songs over each other.
 
I have been in 115 all season and yet to miss a game in any competition, so can share my view. It started very well, with loads of enthusiasm and even noise in smaller games (like vs. Watford). The novelty and enthusiasm of a singing section has waned though and the noise is not spreading as well. With that said, I think there is more noise in 'small' games (like vs. Palace, Norwich, Watford) than there would have been in the past two seasons.

Today was very bad, but really even the most ardent supporter was in shock. If you were on the concourse beforehand, it was DEAFENING at times and the fans were fired up and ready for an atmosphere to rival the Chelsea game, but we were knocked for 6 on and off the pitch. The gallows humour thing doesn't work anymore because expectations are totally different (although Blue Moon and We Never Win At Home were heard after Liverpool's first few goals) and more in line with the club and team, so we are not going to do the defiant in-your-face thing when we're 3-0 down at Liverpool at home. Maybe if United were beating us.

I would say it isn't functioning perfectly, but it is an improvement on previous seasons for sure. Much depends on the mood of the game really - for example it was chaos in there when KDB scored his last minute winner recently, like an away day. More than the South Stand, the singing section corner seems to have died, but maybe many of them relocated.
 
i think its definitly been better than last year the games i have got to. the problem i think is that apart from the singing block/1894 block barely anyone else in the south stand sings, not sure why ? , from the games i have been in 119, the corner part is still louder. south stand level 3 seems to be the noisiest place now
 
LoveCity said:
If you were on the concourse beforehand, it was DEAFENING at times
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Forgive me for saying this LC, but what is the point in the concourse before hand ? The best place for the singing, is on the terrace, during the game. I'm not knocking it, just asking the question, but its the same away in Europe, people on the piss all day, singing in the bars and squares etc, then the game starts, and half the people are all sung out, and some so pissed they're even falling asleep in their seats. Also like I said there's plenty up in 314/315 who are singing, but we can't hear the lower 2 tiers at all, so its not carrying around.

Today is a very bad day to judge, but like I said above, even some self depreciative humour today might have helped.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
south stand level 3 seems to be the noisiest place now
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2 reasons for that, the biggest, we have a roof above which makes the noise stay in, but also the demographic up there is lots of people who are long term fans, and still have the humour.

Today it was just as shit as everywhere else, and was less than half full soon after their 4th goal.
 
cleavers said:
Forgive me for saying this LC, but what is the point in the concourse before hand ? The best place for the singing, is on the terrace, during the game. I'm not knocking it, just asking the question, but its the same away in Europe, people on the piss all day, singing in the bars and squares etc, then the game starts, and half the people are all sung out, and some so pissed they're even falling asleep in their seats. Also like I said there's plenty up in 314/315 who are singing, but we can't hear the lower 2 tiers at all, so its not carrying around.

Today is a very bad day to judge, but like I said above, even some self depreciative humour today might have helped.
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yeah, I agree with this but it's the whole ban on drinking in seats that is the cause I think. I don't drink but it seems like everyone on the concourse has a pint and will drink for as long as they can, so it keeps them on there longer. If they treated football fans more like humans, and allowed people to drink in their seat, I think people would go to their seats much sooner. If the noise on the 114/115 concourse was heard in the terraces 20 minutes before kickoff, it would have turned some heads.
 
cleavers said:
2 reasons for that, the biggest, we have a roof above which makes the noise stay in, but also the demographic up there is lots of people who are long term fans, and still have the humour.

Today it was just as shit as everywhere else, and was less than half full soon after their 4th goal.
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completely agree, when i have been in the south stand this year the demographic does seem different from a few years ago, i.e. lots more families ( only from the few times I've been stood there) . I think price has a big impact on that swell especially with the type of people in level 3
 
LoveCity said:
yeah, I agree with this but it's the whole ban on drinking in seats that is the cause I think. I don't drink but it seems like everyone on the concourse has a pint and will drink for as long as they can, so it keeps them on there longer.
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I agree, but there's nothing we can do about that, maybe it would be better if people gave up 15 minutes of drinking and got out on terrace it would help but the acoustics of being in that block aren't helping either, you'd all be much better up in the 3 tier imho, but that horse has now bolted I'm afraid. I moved there to be above the singers, thinking it would reinforce the noise from below, and improve the atmosphere everywhere, but its rarely loud enough to hear you, and we end up singing different songs, just like the split between 109 and the SS did.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
when i have been in the south stand this year the demographic does seem different from a few years ago, i.e. lots more families
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I assume you mean in the lower tiers, because around where I am in 315, there's very few families, mostly 25-50 year old blokes, who may not initiate singing, but will always join in. Loudest song today was comfortably "have you ever won the premier league" when they started singing their where's your european cups.
 
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