Climate Change is here and man made

[whp.blue]

The amount of carbon emitted in burning a tree is exactly the same amount it would emit if it decomposed naturally

I know that looks blindingly obvious but is it actually true? because if it is I can't believe I have never seen that fact quoted before

 

[BlueBearBoots]

I know that looks blindingly obvious but is it actually true? because if it is I can't believe I have never seen that fact quoted before

Not sure of its true or not but I suppose the difference is time - a decomposing tree emissions would,be tiny over a number of years whereas setting it on fire would be a big burst o emissions

 

[Tuearts right boot]

Y

I know that looks blindingly obvious but is it actually true? because if it is I can't believe I have never seen that fact quoted before

Basically all you're doing is breaking the wood down in to its component parts, carbon and CO2 either way. The carbon goes back to the earth, as coal would have formed millions of years ago and the CO2 is emmited into the atmosphere to be absorbed again by the trees leaves and so the cycle continues.

 

[shemnel]

I know that looks blindingly obvious but is it actually true? because if it is I can't believe I have never seen that fact quoted before

yes a tree will emit (nearly) the same CO2 when burnt as when decomposing naturally, though there will be some sequestration straight into the earth when decomposing naturally.

wood is carbon neutral in that all the CO2 photosynthesised to grow the tree will return to the atmosphere eventually and then, in turn, will return to the soil or more plants. The difference is burning will release it so much faster and so the need for wood as a fuel outstrips the natural pace of wood regeneration, hence an imbalance and build of CO2 in the atmosphere.

 

[kas_tippler]

People bang on about carbon, but it's a natural occurring substance. The atmosphere is made up with 0.5% carbon which humans contribute 0.35% of that 0.5%. Climate change is happening but it's been happening since the beginning of the earth, man made climate change is a conspiracy theory.

 

[stonerblue]

If you could be bothered to watch the documentary and do some research for yourselves you'd realise it's all nonsense. It's become a trendy 'cause', a way to raise tax and fund the industry of peddling the man made climate change myth.

hahaha, what a load of bollox

 

[stonerblue]

Y

Basically all you're doing is breaking the wood down in to its component parts, carbon and CO2 either way. The carbon goes back to the earth, as coal would have formed millions of years ago and the CO2 is emmited into the atmosphere to be absorbed again by the trees leaves and so the cycle continues.

What trees? You've just burnt them down.

 

[stonerblue]

People bang on about carbon, but it's a natural occurring substance. The atmosphere is made up with 0.5% carbon which humans contribute 0.35% of that 0.5%. Climate change is happening but it's been happening since the beginning of the earth, man made climate change is a conspiracy theory.

Der, the dumbest argument of all.
Look at mans impact on the planet since the start of the industrial revolution

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

Der, the dumbest argument of all.
Look at mans impact on the planet since the start of the industrial revolution

 

[kas_tippler]

Der, the dumbest argument of all.
Look at mans impact on the planet since the start of the industrial revolution

I've looked, between the end of WWII and 1974 which is commly accepted as the period of time which the most of man made carbon has been produced there was no raise in temperature.
Its all well and good saying just look what man has done since the industrial revolution but there are really no facts to back any of it up. Pictures of ice cascading from glaciers are just used as alarmist stories, the poles retract and reform naturally.
I always recycle and use natural resources as wisely as possible but climate change has become a industry.

 

[stonerblue]

That's a shit graph, you'll have to explain it to me.

 

[SWP's back]

Forgot all about that gif. Just spent three hours watching it.

 

[stonerblue]

I've looked, between the end of WWII and 1974 which is commly accepted as the period of time which the most of man made carbon has been produced there was no raise in temperature.
Its all well and good saying just look what man has done since the industrial revolution but there are really no facts to back any of it up. Pictures of ice cascading from glaciers are just used as alarmist stories, the poles retract and reform naturally.
I always recycle and use natural resources as wisely as possible but climate change has become a industry.

Let's play a little game on a boring Sunday shall we?

Post 3 links explaining your assertion that climate change is 'a myth' and a 'conspiracy' and i'll try and debunk them

 

[SWP's back]

So let me get this straight we pump resource after resource out of the earth then burn it and cut down trees that can fight against the co2 and blame it on earths natural cycle?

The earth has been both a lot hotter and a lot colder even during the lifetime of humans.

There's no doubt humans are probably affecting global temperatures but whether it's a good thing, bad thing or something we could ever reverse is open for debate.

 

[kas_tippler]

Let's play a little game on a boring Sunday shall we?

Post 3 links explaining your assertion that climate change is 'a myth' and a 'conspiracy' and i'll try and debunk them

I don't need to, I am right and no matter what nonsense and guilt put out by the media I know that man made climate change is myth :0)

 

[SWP's back]

That's a shit graph, you'll have to explain it to me.

It shows that the global mean temperature hasn't changed in nearly twenty years.

 

[stonerblue]

It shows that the global mean temperature hasn't changed in nearly twenty years.

oh look, the same graph

 

[Yaya_Tony]

I don't need to, I am right and no matter what nonsense and guilt put out by the media I know that man made climate change is myth :0)

You're not right you're talking shit. If you were you could prove it. But you can't. Because it's bollocks.

 

[SWP's back]

oh look, the same graph

Yes and your graph shows that in the last twenty years, there has been no warming.

 

[stonerblue]

Plots of time series of globally and regionally averaged time series of temperature anomaly for each dataset can be viewed using a time series browse tool. Several examples of the plots available are shown below.

Figure 5. Globally averaged temperature anomaly time series for the Lower Tropospheric Temperature (TLT). The plot shows the warming ot the troposphere over the last 3 decades which has been attributed to human-caused global warming. (Click on the figure to go to the time series browse tool.)

Figure 6. Globally averaged temperature anomaly time series for the Lower Tropospheric Stratosphere (TLS). The plot shows the cooling of the lower stratosphere over the past 3 decades. This cooling is caused by a combination of ozone depletion and the increase of greenhouse gases. During the most recent decade, the rate of cooling has reduced substantially. (Click on the figure to go to the time series browse tool.)

Might as well have a few more non photoshopped ones