Howard Webb

I couldn't agree more.
My other bugbear is "there was definite contact, there".
I should hope so. It's a contact sport!

In last night's instance, it was penalty; not because there was contact but because he actually denied Aguero a clear goal-scoring opportunity.
However, they've also invented this imaginary 'last man back' rule that apparently must be a factor, too.

(Incidentally, I don't agree with a straight red for the denial of a clear goal scoring opportunity. Three punishments for one offence is silly. A yellow card and allow a penalty goal (like a penalty try on rugby) is plenty of retribution).

Agree especially on the last bit. Always a bit of a laugh to see a player sent off but its in the interest of the game to keep 11 v 11 if at all possible and only violent conduct should be seeing players walk.
 
Agree especially on the last bit. Always a bit of a laugh to see a player sent off but its in the interest of the game to keep 11 v 11 if at all possible and only violent conduct should be seeing players walk.

The red card for the denial of a scoring opportunity originally came in just for fouls outside the box. After Willie Young cynically hacked down Paul Allan on the edge of the box in the FA Cup final. It seemed a suitable punishment for the type of offense, players were committing professional fouls just outside the penalty area all of the time. it was the extension of the punishment to fouls inside the box that didn't make sense.
 
The red card for the denial of a scoring opportunity originally came in just for fouls outside the box. After Willie Young cynically hacked down Paul Allan on the edge of the box in the FA Cup final. It seemed a suitable punishment for the type of offense, players were committing professional fouls just outside the penalty area all of the time. it was the extension of the punishment to fouls inside the box that didn't make sense.

This^^ It's now unofficial policy in some European leagues not to award the red inside the box unless it's for something like a handball on the line.
 
I couldn't agree more.
My other bugbear is "there was definite contact, there".
I should hope so. It's a contact sport!

In last night's instance, it was penalty; not because there was contact but because he actually denied Aguero a clear goal-scoring opportunity.
However, they've also invented this imaginary 'last man back' rule that apparently must be a factor, too.

(Incidentally, I don't agree with a straight red for the denial of a clear goal scoring opportunity. Three punishments for one offence is silly. A yellow card and allow a penalty goal (like a penalty try on rugby) is plenty of retribution).

Sorry to be pedantic but he didn't deny Aguero a clear goal scoring opportunity.

There's only one question the ref needs to ask himself which is was it a foul or not? In this instance he called it wrong.
 
Webb trying his best to justify why the ref didn't give it...(sticking together); he says there WAS contact, but not enough to give a pen !!!!!????? and as another poster pointed out, look at Kasper, he shit his self.
 
Webb trying his best to justify why the ref didn't give it...(sticking together); he says there WAS contact, but not enough to give a pen !!!!!????? and as another poster pointed out, look at Kasper, he shit his self.

Webb got it wrong. He knows he got it wrong but rather than say that he initially got it wrong, he continues to dig himself a hole to avoid recognising the obvious! This is the calibre of referee currently shafting fans up and down the nation.
 
Watching the game again and it is frightening how many poor decisions Pawson made. It will be interesting what game he gets next if any.
 
Watch the game we next get with Atkinson and see the yellows we get yet he hardly booked the rags for diving and yellow offences. As for Webb i remember the rags being 3 down at Chelsea and he gave them 2 of the softest penalties i have ever seen. No surprise he retired shortly after Ferguson
 
I am of the opinion that when the US authorities rid FIFA of its greedy dinosaurs, and probably take control of FIFA, then the use of available technology to assist referee decision making will be introduced. It's all about the money and footie is the only sport refusing technology under the current regime.
Video technology, like the pass back rule and goalline technology, is one of those changes which will be opposed by the dinosaurs but will very quickly fall into the category of 'why didn't we do this years ago'. The referees clearly need help and the technology is there.
 
I think we could have had one with Mangala too.

I think we had a corner, it got cleared and De Bruyne put it back in the box. Mangala gets a touch on it and i think Morgan caught him. Stayed on his feet though and wins another corner.
 
Must admit I thought I had misheard him when he first said it was not a penalty.
After that his defence of the argument was an embarrassement to his profession.
Rag twat of the highest order.
Bet he was bent as a copper too!
 
You clearly haven't been going to City for a long time if you get so upset about someone calling them that.
Probably nearly 50 years.....but like most decent people on here...I have the intelligence to be able to insult them without having to refer to people (including one of our own) who were killed in a plane crash!
 
well I know we're hard done by, but we can't complain compared to Betis.

Keeper comes and punches, Messi runs into him and falls over, ref gives a penalty to Barca. Neymar then kicks it twice taking the penalty, the ball hits the bar then comes back and goes off the defender for an OG.

When your luck's out, horribly biased refereeing.
 
Quite agree, DEB'E.

Imagine the situation if there was a video referee judging whether there was a "foul" on Aguero or not. This review can be taken while the players are arguing with the referee over the incident, and will not take up any further time.

"Should that have been a penalty, Mr Webb, Mr Jones?" "No, the defender just about touched the ball, not enough to change it's direction, and the contact with Aguero was merely incidental. No penalty" says Mr Webb. "Despite the fact the defender didn't touch the ball, and the incident was in the penalty area, it was obvious that Aguero dived . No penalty, and a yellow card for simulation to Aguero, " says Mr Jones.

Sums it up, really.

What happens if Mr Webb is the video ref ;-)
 
Must admit I thought I had misheard him when he first said it was not a penalty.
After that his defence of the argument was an embarrassement to his profession.
Rag twat of the highest order.
Bet he was bent as a copper too!
I couldn't believe what he said and then I remembered it was us who shopped him and his fellow bent refs, Walton & Foy, to the PL. So he had to "retire" at 43. It's about time that little dossier made its way into the public domain and, instead of sitting in a studio, he's in a prison cell where he belongs.
 
I couldn't believe what he said and then I remembered it was us who shopped him and his fellow bent refs, Walton & Foy, to the PL. So he had to "retire" at 43. It's about time that little dossier made its way into the public domain and, instead of sitting in a studio, he's in a prison cell where he belongs.

Ka-boom!!
 

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