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Eslam elcity

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the partnership of Silva and de Bruyne is bad and harmful no matter how it was sometimes good And Effective
said it before about the partnership of Silva and Nasri , we will find that we have to choose between Silva and de Bruyne in the future, the problem of playing duo together may not appear now as a large problem but with the time it becomes bigger problem, and even if we Swept our opponents with the existence of the duo that something disingenuous and the truth will be reflected with the time . the presence of Toure somehow makes the partnership of Silva and de Bruyne more failed, Toure because of the age naturally he will not be able to go back each attack was advanced by quickly So here the duo Silva and de Bruyne should help him and the team by going back and defending sometimes but this duo never help so sometimes Dinho find himself alone in front of more opponent players !! Both are play makers, ordinary or bad on the wing, lack many of the advantages of the wing such as speed, defensive coverage, and we will find that we have to choose between the duo - especially in Europe and the big matchs in the league - and here I think that de Bruyne will be more proper for 60% of the meetings and Silva more proper for 40 % of the meetings .we Must accept that the main Skeleton are declining , the main Skeleton are Hart Zabaleta Kompany Toure Silva Aguero , De Bruyne is very great deal because we can say that we find the Suitable alternative for Silva strongly and perhaps best, while the five rest have not been compensated for because, perhaps Zabaleta Sagna performs well
I do not say this for criticism the magician Silva, but this is the fact either Silva or de Bruyne for the City use
 
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Eslam elcity said:
the partnership of Silva and de Bruyne is bad and harmful no matter how it was sometimes good And Effective
said it before about the partnership of Silva and Nasri , we will find that we have to choose between Silva and de Bruyne in the future, the problem of playing duo together may not appear now as a large problem but with the time it becomes bigger problem, and even if we Swept our opponents with the existence of the duo that something disingenuous and the truth will be reflected with the time . the presence of Toure somehow makes the partnership of Silva and de Bruyne more failed, Toure because of the age naturally he will not be able to go back each attack was advanced by quickly So here the duo Silva and de Bruyne should help him and the team by going back and defending sometimes but this duo never help so sometimes Dinho find himself alone in front of more opponent players !! Both are play makers, ordinary or bad on the wing, lack many of the advantages of the wing such as speed, defensive coverage, and we will find that we have to choose between the duo - especially in Europe and the big matchs in the league - and here I think that de Bruyne will be more proper for 60% of the meetings and Silva more proper for 40 % of the meetings .we Must accept that the main Skeleton are declining , the main Skeleton are Hart Zabaleta Kompany Toure Silva Aguero , De Bruyne is very great deal because we can say that we find the Suitable alternative for Silva strongly and perhaps best, while the five rest have not been compensated for because, perhaps Zabaleta Sagna performs well
I do not say this for criticism the magician Silva, but this is the fact either Silva or de Bruyne for the City use
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I really think Sterling and De Bruyne are wasted out wide. We don't play with Andy Carroll and we don't have a Lampard making late runs into the box so playing De Bruyne and Sterling out wide is a waste of their attacking talent especially Sterling who always cuts in on his right foot. He needs to play inside.

Notable that the crosses that produced our goals came from full backs. We don't need Sterling and De Bruyne to give us width. We need one at least to be linking up with Silva.

City's defending gets hammered by the critics game after game, but we've been struggling to create chances for weeks now. In part down to Aguero but that's not the sole reason. Aguero, Silva, Sterling, De Bruyne is a great unit, but they aren't playing together. This is what should be being discussed.

Pitch was terrible at Watford. Didn't help
 
If Nasri and silva were great together then de Bruyne and silva should be able to play together! Confidence from the whole squad looks shot at the minute to be honest
 
Eslam elcity said:
the partnership of Silva and de Bruyne is bad and harmful no matter how it was sometimes good And Effective
said it before about the partnership of Silva and Nasri , we will find that we have to choose between Silva and de Bruyne in the future, the problem of playing duo together may not appear now as a large problem but with the time it becomes bigger problem, and even if we Swept our opponents with the existence of the duo that something disingenuous and the truth will be reflected with the time . the presence of Toure somehow makes the partnership of Silva and de Bruyne more failed, Toure because of the age naturally he will not be able to go back each attack was advanced by quickly So here the duo Silva and de Bruyne should help him and the team by going back and defending sometimes but this duo never help so sometimes Dinho find himself alone in front of more opponent players !! Both are play makers, ordinary or bad on the wing, lack many of the advantages of the wing such as speed, defensive coverage, and we will find that we have to choose between the duo - especially in Europe and the big matchs in the league - and here I think that de Bruyne will be more proper for 60% of the meetings and Silva more proper for 40 % of the meetings .we Must accept that the main Skeleton are declining , the main Skeleton are Hart Zabaleta Kompany Toure Silva Aguero , De Bruyne is very great deal because we can say that we find the Suitable alternative for Silva strongly and perhaps best, while the five rest have not been compensated for because, perhaps Zabaleta Sagna performs well
I do not say this for criticism the magician Silva, but this is the fact either Silva or de Bruyne for the City use
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And breathe.
 
There is definitely something lacking going forward, it cant be lack of ability because we are over-loaded with it. However after watching the game last night it seems that the supporting attacking trio of Silva, KDB and Sterling have forgotten how to provide service to Kun.

On a few occasions last night the wrong option on the final ball was played resulting in a breakdown of the attack, I am not saying that these 3 supporting kun are not good enough, because they are, however it seems that with the introduction of both KDB and Sterling this allows Silva to not directly look for Aguero. Last night Kun made a few runs that he could have got in behind the back four, but the option to spread the ball out to the wide men was chosen.

We are also not utilising the ability of the attacking front line, and maybe this is just a season that will be a bedding in period, but we are too slow in attacking resulting in the opposition getting numbers back behind the ball. Sometimes it looks as though once we get forward we are unsure of which option to take for the best. I have also noticed a real lack of movement sometimes once we are on the attack, where once we would utilise the space between the defenders and midfield we are not seeing a silva, KDB or sterling run into these areas as much as we used to

hopefully this will change in the 2nd half of the season
 
We would be much better going forward if Sterling occasionally made the right decision. Saying that Silva was very poor last night.
 
And leave a £50m+ rated player on the bench? No thanks.

Few are gelling or excelling at the moment. KDB is still settling in. It's up to the manager to find a system that works.
 
Doesn't help that there seems to be a huge lack of confidence in the squad at the minute? I wonder if the players just want the season to end now and get pep in? It must be in the players minds that Manuel isn't staying?
 
Manc in London said:
We would be much better going forward if Sterling occasionally made the right decision. Saying that Silva was very poor last night.
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Yes, Sterling ws the poorest of the attacking 3 yesterday. That said DeBryune and Silva have that higher level of understanding most players don't have. The interplay for DeBryune's shot was a good example.

I think DeBryune in the middle and Silva left with Sterling on the Right might work best. Sterling needs to be running at players and into space, he can best do that on the Right.
 
Completely disagree DeBruyne is more then capable on the wing cutting inside and his crossing is the best in the league plus he is quick and skillful enough to be more then a match for most fullbacks, Silva wasnt help by the conditions yesterday that pitch was shocking plus the fact that Aguero is nowhere need his best. Silva best skills are his passing ability and his vision he cant pick a pass if the strikers arnt making the runs no ones fault aguero just isnt at full fitness and bony is a different type of striker. Sterlings pace, Agueros finishing, Silvas vision, DeBruynes unpredictabity and Yayas distance shooting is an unreal combination if we cant get them all fit and keep them fit we walk the league and have a damn good shout at the champions league.
 
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And leave a £50m+ rated player on the bench? No thanks.

Few are gelling or excelling at the moment. KDB is still settling in. It's up to the manager to find a system that works.
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Agree naturally. How it could be even suggested to bench one of these players is beyond me. They are just too good. Hard to leave KDB out given his current stats, hard to leave Silva out having been so instrumetal for City for years.

Tactics wise there is plenty of room for alternative setup, most of our forward players can play multiple positions. There are atleast a dozen things if not more that Pellers can still try to make the offense more effective.

Also i'd allow for some mitigating circumstances. Both Ageurro and Silva have only fairly recently returned from long injury, pitch was bad as people noted. And at the very least we should take some concern about the deminisched effectiveness of the defense withought Komps and how it's inpacting our results, we'd have better results if we kept more clean sheets and yet not nessecarily a big criticism to our defense that.

I just think were in a bit of a more difficult period atm but i'm confident that things can improve a lot. And we won yesterday. 2 matches away from home recently and we have a draw and a win, one could argue things look like improving already.

Some will always be overcritical. There are always posters who can have fair criticism even about a player who on average is doing well, one can understand that as seeing area's for improvement and such an argument can be constructive. others will take more patient attitude's or allow for mitigating circumstances. Some people though ... the op is just being silly imho, it's like his "observations" are of such a scientific quality that it would make it but logical to bench some of Europe's most finest players. And by benching ultimatly also selling him down the long run, because it's unlikely that these 2 players would like to be on the bench regularly it would hit morale. It's an extremely unconstructive form of crticism, practicly comes down to giving up on that partnership and one of these players instead of trying to get most out of the teams best players.

Is the OP really that certain? Because if he follow's up on his drastic consideration then we will likely have to sell either Silva or the Bruyne come end of the year. There would be no chance anymore for them to prove that the partnership could work if they don't play toghether and they won't accept being benched half of the time or more neither. Does that mean City did a bad job attracting KDB even regardless of his current stats? Or was the op going to keep KDB and boot Silva out?

We all like to discuss players and give our views, at some point though we must consider our limitation as an AMATEUR. Or perhaps the OP is actually Pep Gardiola posting incognito here. Honestly what credentials does our OP have to suggest such a drastic change?
 
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You would never leave either of these players out of your side unless they were injured or rested.

The big problem is YaYa. Yet again there was a massive hole at the back of the midfield yesterday.
 
I believe it's the positions on the pitch that causes the most problems. I haven't seen De Bruyne play a good game for us when he has started on the right. He looks more at ease when playing centrally or from the left. For me it doesn't matter where Silva starts from as he will drift and take up intelligent positions to receive the ball.

The two biggest problems for me is Sterling and Yaya. Sterling seems to struggle when stuck on the left and looks more active when playing through the middle. I would prefer if he played from the right, so he can take the defender on and he can drift in to support the attack.

My opinion on Yaya is that he is playing too much, but when he is missing, we seem to lack the ability for someone to take the ball from the defence and link the attack. With Yaya struggling to defend these days it causes us problems when teams attack us through the middle.

We need to find solutions to be able to rest Yaya, especially with the upcoming games. Maybe we need to play one of Sterling, De bruyne and Silva from the bench at times.
 
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