United Thread 2015/16

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Uncle Wally One Ball said:
The problems were deep seated enough to have allowed Ferguson to have jumped into bed with the Irish race horsing mafia, who no sensible manager of any business aside from horse racing or gambling fixing (same thing) would go near. That went inevitably wrong, but shouldnt have been entertained by a brand like manyoo. I agree they have fallen as a club, but its not just the Glazers and it not necessarily in a short space of time. I think baconface created the problems they have entered into, and thankfully made worse
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He has been the cause of the problems, without a doubt. Firstly, as you say, his doomed to failure skirmish with the Coolmore boys enabled Uncle Malc to take the club over and simultaneously saddle it with debts that would hamper united for a decade. Secondly, his strategic failings in the later years of his tenure were egregiously negligent. Add into the cocktail the fact that the whole edifice was built around him, and the cult of his personality, then an absence of any discernible form of succession planning left the club where it is today: rudderless, leaderless and clueless, whilst gibbering to itself about the 'united way'. So yes, the seeds of this current pantomime were sowed many moons ago, but the cracks were effectively covered up by the commercial growth of the club and Ferguson's enduring ability to somehow defy the odds against an ever declining squad. Once he left, all one sees now was almost inevitable; and best of all, they simply don't have the personnel at the club, especially in relation to the Glazers or Woodward, to even begin to turn it round.
 
meanwhile we cant let this go unnoticed, their attempt on the youth cup crashed and burned in dramatic style

http://www.thefa.com/news/competiti...chelsea-mason-mount-jay-dasilva-tammy-abraham

Holders Chelsea ease past Man Utd in The FA Youth Cup
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    Jay Dasilva was on target for Chelsea in their 5-1 win over Man Utd
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beaten Manchester City in last year’s Final, Chelsea saw off their Manchester rivals comfortably in this fourth round tie.

Ike Ugbo and Tammy Abraham fired them into a 2-0 half-time lead, with Charlie Scott pulling one back for United early in the second half.

FA Youth Cup
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Friday 22 January
Round-up

That was as good as it got for the home side though, with Chelsea running away with it after the break.

First Mason Mount restored the two-goal advantage with a goal on the counter-attack before Jay Dasilva stretched the lead to 4-1.

And there was still time for Mukhtar Ali to complete the rout in the dying seconds for the defending champions.

There was a similarly one-sided scoreline at Molineux where the Met Police’s challenge came to an end against Wolves.

They were beaten 5-0 with Wolves making a flying start as Joe Delacoe opened the scoring after just five minutes.

Delacoe was involved in the second on 26 minutes, but after his header was saved, Daniel Armstrong popped up to slot the rebound.

The same combination set up Wolves’ third, Armstrong again the scorer, and early in the second half Conor Levingston made it 4-0.

Delacoe completed his double with 20 minutes remaining, as he and Armstrong combined once more, to send Wolves a stage further than they managed last season.

Chelsea will travel to AFC Wimbledon in round five, while Wolves will host Reading.


Read more at http://www.thefa.com/news/competiti...jay-dasilva-tammy-abraham#p8BdkyS2E0kAocUh.99
 
Wreckless Alec said:
Jamie Jackson touting Gary Neville on Talkshite this morning. Dream partnership I would say, Neville and Giggs, Class of '92, United boot room and all that. What could go wrong ?
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When giggs was in charge they didn't win, Gary Chuckle is having a nightmare at Valencia it would get my vote. The raggies have to stick or twist with turtle at the moment Spurs and Leicester look good enough to keep it going till May with some real momentum in their football at the moment. Meanwhile the raggies look shite, you could see that result coming in Saturday. Laboured possession of the ball and Southampton looking to steal it on the break without being in any danger at the back.

I hope they finish 5th, no champions league will hit them with player recruitment. Far flung trips to Eastern Europe on a Thursday then playing Sunday will fuck up the early part of the league campaign.

Whoever comes in has got a massive task trying to get them on a level where they could compete over a season with us or Arsenal.
 
tonea2003 said:
meanwhile we cant let this go unnoticed, their attempt on the youth cup crashed and burned in dramatic style

http://www.thefa.com/news/competiti...chelsea-mason-mount-jay-dasilva-tammy-abraham

Holders Chelsea ease past Man Utd in The FA Youth Cup
Listen

beaten Manchester City in last year’s Final, Chelsea saw off their Manchester rivals comfortably in this fourth round tie.

Ike Ugbo and Tammy Abraham fired them into a 2-0 half-time lead, with Charlie Scott pulling one back for United early in the second half.

FA Youth Cup
Fourth Round
Friday 22 January
Round-up

That was as good as it got for the home side though, with Chelsea running away with it after the break.

First Mason Mount restored the two-goal advantage with a goal on the counter-attack before Jay Dasilva stretched the lead to 4-1.

And there was still time for Mukhtar Ali to complete the rout in the dying seconds for the defending champions.

There was a similarly one-sided scoreline at Molineux where the Met Police’s challenge came to an end against Wolves.

They were beaten 5-0 with Wolves making a flying start as Joe Delacoe opened the scoring after just five minutes.

Delacoe was involved in the second on 26 minutes, but after his header was saved, Daniel Armstrong popped up to slot the rebound.

The same combination set up Wolves’ third, Armstrong again the scorer, and early in the second half Conor Levingston made it 4-0.

Delacoe completed his double with 20 minutes remaining, as he and Armstrong combined once more, to send Wolves a stage further than they managed last season.

Chelsea will travel to AFC Wimbledon in round five, while Wolves will host Reading.


Read more at http://www.thefa.com/news/competiti...jay-dasilva-tammy-abraham#p8BdkyS2E0kAocUh.99
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With the current state of their youth setup, these are the players they will have to promote to their first team in a few years, just so they can continue their tradition of having a home grown player in every squad since the nineteenth century.
 
I think Utd might appoint Giggs hoping to bounce themselves into the top 4. They will be desperate to get top 4, and there's an additional attraction of giving Giggs some months this season as a brief test of his managerial abilities.

Their fans seem to have turned.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
When giggs was in charge they didn't win, Gary Chuckle is having a nightmare at Valencia it would get my vote. The raggies have to stick or twist with turtle at the moment Spurs and Leicester look good enough to keep it going till May with some real momentum in their football at the moment. Meanwhile the raggies look shite, you could see that result coming in Saturday. Laboured possession of the ball and Southampton looking to steal it on the break without being in any danger at the back.

I hope they finish 5th, no champions league will hit them with player recruitment. Far flung trips to Eastern Europe on a Thursday then playing Sunday will fuck up the early part of the league campaign.

Whoever comes in has got a massive task trying to get them on a level where they could compete over a season with us or Arsenal.
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I thought they won at OT in a very convincing win didn`t they on his first game in charge ?
 
oakiecokie said:
I thought they won at OT in a very convincing win didn`t they on his first game in charge ?
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W2 D1 L1 He did win his 1st game. The media hailed it as the 2nd coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. They beat Norwich 4-0 (did they get relegated that year?). They also beat that European powerhouse Hull City 3-1. The egotistical twat brought himself on as sub to receive the adulaton. Think Hull also relegated that year
 
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oldhamblue said:
W2 D1 L1 He did win his 1st game. The media hailed it as the 2nd coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. They beat Norwich 4-0 (did they get relegated that year?). They also beat that European powerhouse Hull City 3-1. The egotistical twat brought himself on as sub to receive the adulaton. Think Hull also relegated that year
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Yes the fuckers deserve one another and as you say a right egotistical twat.
 
Their new firewall (their fans and the media) is that their brand is "unbreakable". We'll see. I mean we are the 8th/9th richest club in the world, but coming 8th/9th on the richest list wasn't as good a feeling as watching Suarez, Istanbul, the two cup finals under Dalglish the 2nd time, etc.

While no team has any god-given right to win all the time, I'm thinking as football fans we still want our team to be the very best that it can be on the field. But I sense from that lot that they're going to transition to taking pride in being the "richest club in the world" or something like that.

I guess their other firewall is that Mourinho is better than Pep, and that when Mourinho is manager in short order, with players like James, Sneijder, Cavani, Kane, Pogba, Martial, and JizzJazz, they will storm the league next season.
 
I wonder how their new sponsorship deal will be affected if they fail to get in the top 4. If I remember correctly, a lot of it is performance related and reliant on them being in the CL.
 
superseiyan said:
Their new firewall (their fans and the media) is that their brand is "unbreakable". We'll see. I mean we are the 8th/9th richest club in the world, but coming 8th/9th on the richest list wasn't as good a feeling as watching Suarez, Istanbul, the two cup finals under Dalglish the 2nd time, etc.

While no team has any god-given right to win all the time, I'm thinking as football fans we still want our team to be the very best that it can be on the field. But I sense from that lot that they're going to transition to taking pride in being the "richest club in the world" or something like that.

I guess their other firewall is that Mourinho is better than Pep, and that when Mourinho is manager in short order, with players like James, Sneijder, Cavani, Kane, Pogba, Martial, and JizzJazz, they will storm the league next season.
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Team like the scum shouldn't have a "Transition" do Madrid or Barcelona get the luxury of a Transition period?

City won't get one with Pep coming at a time our established players who have won us our trophies are coming to the end of there city career.
 
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just been reading the LVG out thread over on the caf, those deluded dicks are talking about Pochettino etc as if they could just click their fingers and any top manager will come running!!
sometimes i feel slightly sorry for decent reds , then i remember THAT banner ,so much disrespect they deserve everything theyre getting atm !
 
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