Well done boss

[Saddleworth2]

I wouldn't be remotely surprised to discover he's been completely stoned, nonstop, since July 2013.

Gosh, that explains everything. Thanks GDM.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

absolutely 100% true.

So Pellers is 100 percent responsible for us winning the Carling Cup, being in the semi Final of the Champs League, being third in the table (we probably should be higher) and having the worst injury record involving key players in the last 40 years?

 

[Saddleworth2]

So Pellers is 100 percent responsible for us winning the Carling Cup, being in the semi Final of the Champs League, being third in the table (we probably should be higher) and having the worst injury record involving key players in the last 40 years?

The injuries have been bad but I am talking about management in any industry having total accountability for when objectives and goals are not achieved. His record in the Premier league the last two seasons has been poor. We have not looked like challenging for the title in either. And for the record, I don't think he is 100% to blame. Our Director of Football has to share that, as he has performance management responsibility for Manuel.

If we have players for whatever reason are performing below standard it is Pellers responsibility to remedy that. Its also his responsibility to pick a team where players are comfortable in the role. He was supposed to be responsible for integrating youth into the first team squad - another objective he has failed. Principled man, very average coach.

 

[The blue phantom]

So Pellers is 100 percent responsible for us winning the Carling Cup, being in the semi Final of the Champs League, being third in the table (we probably should be higher) and having the worst injury record involving key players in the last 40 years?

You know what i keep reading these injury post, you'd think we were putting a reserve 11 out for the last 18 months

Do you forget how fuckin awful we have been and still putting out near enough full strength sides, you can use the injury excuse at times but don't fuckin milk it.

 

[Phil1]

You mustn't like Wembley wins and Champions League semi final then?

Maybe we shoul bring back Steve Coppell?

I imagine he loves Wembley wins and getting into the CL semi. What he probably dislikes is seeing his team struggle in the competition the vast majority of supporters want to win the most. Not just struggle in fact but not come close for two years whilst playing some of the poorest football possible.

We don't need Coppell back, we need a manager who lives and breathes the game and is capable of taking the squad up a level or two. Not someone who's made the same mistakes over and over.

 

[squirtyflower]

There's criticism and there's bile. Sadly we have too many fans on here not capable of the former. He does deserve the former, no one should be receiving the latter imo

Couldn't agree more with you
Discuss his inane tactics, his poor motivational skills and his bizarre selections but
NOTE
Cut out the personal abuse from now on

He's going in seven games so there's no need for it.

 

[Phil1]

Couldn't agree more with you
Discuss his inane tactics, his poor motivational skills and his bizarre selections but
NOTE
Cut out the personal abuse from now on

He's going in seven games so there's no need for it.

You might want to lock this then if we drop out of the top 4 and those gobshites over the road overtake us! :-)

 

[squirtyflower]

You might want to lock this then if we drop out of the top 4 and those gobshites over the road overtake us! :-)

What, you mean like all the other manager threads? Can't see it myself......

 

[Shirley]

He's going in seven games so there's no need for it.

Seven games ;-)

 

[Phil1]

What, you mean like all the other manager threads? Can't see it myself......

You can never have enough manager threads on the go.

 

[The blue phantom]

Couldn't agree more with you
Discuss his inane tactics, his poor motivational skills and his bizarre selections but
NOTE
Cut out the personal abuse from now on

He's going in seven games so there's no need for it.

You may aswel say that abt player threads then
Ive read some proper abuse this week and most of the season from half the forum

So is the manager off limits as the players seem fair game?

 

[FantasyIreland]

You may aswel say that abt player threads then
Ive read some proper abuse this week and most of the season from half the forum

So is the manager off limits as the players seem fair game?

No one is fair game,any comments that are deemed to cross the line will be dealt with.Cheers

 

[squirtyflower]

You may aswel say that abt player threads then
Ive read some proper abuse this week and most of the season from half the forum

So is the manager off limits as the players seem fair game?

Neither are fair game

 

[Shirley]

You may aswel say that abt player threads then
Ive read some proper abuse this week and most of the season from half the forum

So is the manager off limits as the players seem fair game?

I was shocked and disgusted with the abuse against Kolarov on here after the Newcastle game, I thought to myself no wonder we are called Bitter Blues.

 

[The blue phantom]

I was shocked and disgusted with the abuse against Kolarov on here after the Newcastle game, I thought to myself no wonder we are called Bitter Blues.

Tbh if blues want to call players i dont care, up to them, it was more a pop at the manager should be fair game too if the players are on here.

 

[Shaelumstash]

So Pellers is 100 percent responsible for us winning the Carling Cup, being in the semi Final of the Champs League, being third in the table (we probably should be higher) and having the worst injury record involving key players in the last 40 years?

No, the point was that if the whole group, or the majority of the group are demotivated, the manager is responsible. Whatever the industry.

A manager's job is to get the best performance they can out of the people who work under them. We can argue about team selection, tactics, recruitment etc and everyone will have a different view.

But those that are blaming the players for "not giving a toss" or "not trying" for the last 2 seasons are missing the point. If the majority of the players are demotivated, it is absolutely the manager's responsibility.

 

[schfc6]

No, the point was that if the whole group, or the majority of the group are demotivated, the manager is responsible. Whatever the industry.

A manager's job is to get the best performance they can out of the people who work under them. We can argue about team selection, tactics, recruitment etc and everyone will have a different view.

But those that are blaming the players for "not giving a toss" or "not trying" for the last 2 seasons are missing the point. If the majority of the players are demotivated, it is absolutely the manager's responsibility.

He's not their manager though. He has only ever been their temporary manager. Their substitute teacher. This has been the problem. If these players aren't self motivating now with a CL semi round the corner, a battle for 4th and the best manager in World football incoming in a matter of weeks then how do you expect a caretaker manager to motivate them?

To relate it to industry, you're basically asking someone who's been fired/placed on gardening leave to motivate his staff. It wouldn't happen in industry. In industry the conduct of players like Toure would have resulted in the sack.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

The injuries have been bad but I am talking about management in any industry having total accountability for when objectives and goals are not achieved. His record in the Premier league the last two seasons has been poor. We have not looked like challenging for the title in either. And for the record, I don't think he is 100% to blame. Our Director of Football has to share that, as he has performance management responsibility for Manuel.

If we have players for whatever reason are performing below standard it is Pellers responsibility to remedy that. Its also his responsibility to pick a team where players are comfortable in the role. He was supposed to be responsible for integrating youth into the first team squad - another objective he has failed. Principled man, very average coach.

I agree that league results over the last two years have been disappointing and youth players should have had more opportunities. That said, if we win the Champs League, this will be rendered as the greatest season in our history!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

You know what i keep reading these injury post, you'd think we were putting a reserve 11 out for the last 18 months

Do you forget how fuckin awful we have been and still putting out near enough full strength sides, you can use the injury excuse at times but don't fuckin milk it.

Most sides are full of internationals and main squad is about 25 guys for all the teams. Any side would miss greats like Kompany, Aguero and DeBruyne - not to mention Nasri

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I imagine he loves Wembley wins and getting into the CL semi. What he probably dislikes is seeing his team struggle in the competition the vast majority of supporters want to win the most. Not just struggle in fact but not come close for two years whilst playing some of the poorest football possible.

We don't need Coppell back, we need a manager who lives and breathes the game and is capable of taking the squad up a level or two. Not someone who's made the same mistakes over and over.

Performamce have been mixed in the league but it's been far from the poorest play possible. In the last month we have seen three good away lerforamces at Bournemouth, PSG and Chelsea.

Yes I would have liked to see Pellers adapt his tactics more but it is a myth to say Pellers always makes the same mistakes. At Chelsea, Pellers insisted that the normally Attack minded Kolarov stay back - even to the point where Mauel is still giving Aleks instructions at 3 nil up. This paid dividends during the game as three times in the first half Kolarov covers cross at the back post that had been hit across the six yard box!