Spanish police

Spanish police being dickheads is just accepted by UEFA and football in general, same with racism in russia and getting stabbed in the arse in Italy. If it was the other way round and happened in England though, heads would roll
 
M18CTID said:
I know. I've got zero confidence that anything will happen but I'm still e-mailing the club with my own experiences.
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What email are you using? As you say - nothing will get done. Even if the club do complain, Real Madrid and the Spanish police will just laugh at it. Perhaps UEFA should be the one's to ask questions - Real Madrid would maybe have to take some notice then.
 
The Germans are the only ones you would want to be stood next to in a trench...and funny enough they are the decent ones when we visit.

Typical bullies and cowards the rest of our Southern European cousins,Greeks excluded.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
What email are you using? As you say - nothing will get done. Even if the club do complain, Real Madrid and the Spanish police will just laugh at it. Perhaps UEFA should be the one's to ask questions - Real Madrid would maybe have to take some notice then.
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I was going to address it to Lisa Eaton as she's the SLO.

I don't think this is necessarily Real Madrid's fault - it seems like the Madrid police have carte blanche to do what the fuck they want and someone on this thread has stated that Real fans got battered by the police at Atletico's ground some years back, an incident so serious that it made the national news in Spain.
 
Was this video footage a continuation of the City fans fighting amongst themselves in the fourth tier, directly behind where the lad filming it was stood/sat. I saw the City fans having a do at each other, but watched the game after that, it did spill down the stairs to the third tier but I lost interest util the lad was dragged out and it went off again as per the video. I saw no other trouble all day, yes it was loud and drink fueled, but fans mixed, even Atletico fans. To be honest there was less bother in the ground than at Wembley. My mate and I got to the ground at about 8pm, walked straight in as there were very few fans at the turnstiles. Got to say, the 2 searches, 1 before you presented your ticket at the turnstile scanner, then one after on the first flight of stairs was a bit over the top. The 5 or so open turnstiles were inadequate to cope with any sort of influx of fans, so I guess if 3 thousand turn up with 30 minutes or less to go, it was always going to get a bit heated. Fans were coming in with 20 plus minutes gone in the game. Remember, they rarely get large numbers of travelling fans in Spain, the authorities are bound to be twitchy, and it takes very little to set them, and to fair, fans off on one. What was the reason for slinging the lad out which seemed to cause the Punch and Judy show...?!
Somebody next to me turned up after 45 minutes with a treated split nose, said they were baton charged at the turnstiles, did that happen, was also told there was some inter city fan fighting in Plaza Mayor, did that happen. Other than the crap in the stands, I saw nowt, all good natured, singing, mixing fans and locals videoing us chanting. Never saw any cops wading in or looking for trouble..?!
Was it just the mad rush/crush to get in before KO?
I tell you what, if hundreds had rushed those turnstiles, they'd have got in, but only to be bitten by the big fuck off dogs on each stairway, and they can bite a few at a time...!
Leaving the stadium was slow but uneventful around us, although some on the plane back said it was problematic. The stadium entry and exit is not up to standard to be honest, certainly not when masses turn up with too little time to get through the security checks. I'd go again at the drop of a hat because I had a great experience, great food, drink and company, I just used my experience to avoid being fucked over.....!
 
Took this 10 minutes prior to kick off.
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Stretford Born Blue said:
Was this video footage a continuation of the City fans fighting amongst themselves in the fourth tier, directly behind where the lad filming it was stood/sat. I saw the City fans having a do at each other, but watched the game after that, it did spill down the stairs to the third tier but I lost interest util the lad was dragged out and it went off again as per the video. I saw no other trouble all day, yes it was loud and drink fueled, but fans mixed, even Atletico fans. To be honest there was less bother in the ground than at Wembley. My mate and I got to the ground at about 8pm, walked straight in as there were very few fans at the turnstiles. Got to say, the 2 searches, 1 before you presented your ticket at the turnstile scanner, then one after on the first flight of stairs was a bit over the top. The 5 or so open turnstiles were inadequate to cope with any sort of influx of fans, so I guess if 3 thousand turn up with 30 minutes or less to go, it was always going to get a bit heated. Fans were coming in with 20 plus minutes gone in the game. Remember, they rarely get large numbers of travelling fans in Spain, the authorities are bound to be twitchy, and it takes very little to set them, and to fair, fans off on one. What was the reason for slinging the lad out which seemed to cause the Punch and Judy show...?!
Somebody next to me turned up after 45 minutes with a treated split nose, said they were baton charged at the turnstiles, did that happen, was also told there was some inter city fan fighting in Plaza Mayor, did that happen. Other than the crap in the stands, I saw nowt, all good natured, singing, mixing fans and locals videoing us chanting. Never saw any cops wading in or looking for trouble..?!
Was it just the mad rush/crush to get in before KO?
I tell you what, if hundreds had rushed those turnstiles, they'd have got in, but only to be bitten by the big fuck off dogs on each stairway, and they can bite a few at a time...!
Leaving the stadium was slow but uneventful around us, although some on the plane back said it was problematic. The stadium entry and exit is not up to standard to be honest, certainly not when masses turn up with too little time to get through the security checks. I'd go again at the drop of a hat because I had a great experience, great food, drink and company, I just used my experience to avoid being fucked over.....!
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That was just one of many incidents involving the police mate. They were a bunch of cunts, end of. There are comments on here including one from a fan who got battered for trying to protect his 6 months pregnant girlfriend.

I'm glad you didn't caught up in it but it's dangerous to think that because you weren't on the receiving end yourself it wasn't that bad because believe me, it was. Most fans caught in the chaos outside actually turned up much earlier than they would for a game over here and regardless of them not being used to big away followings in Spain, there were no issues getting us into the ground in Sevilla and Barca last year wasn't too bad either.

I didn't see any trouble in Plaza Mayor or anywhere else all day but even if it did happen, it would've involved a tiny minority of our support out there and is no excuse whatsoever for the indiscriminate police brutality. I got a twatting for trying to make my way to my seat from the concourse - no mouthing off from me or anything. It was completely and utterly unwarranted and one bloke who got similar treatment walked out of the ground in disgust.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
See the fan against the barrier with the riot copper - he got a right kicking and batoning. He was then made to stand there for ages - don't know if they eventually let him in.
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I'm somewhere in that mass of fans - the crush was quite hairy to be honest. Why they didn't have a proper queueing system with barriers like you can see on the other side of the checkpoint is beyond me.
 
The fight in the Plaza Mayor was nothing, they were actually friends, just got a bit silly.
It wasn't a big brawl.
 
droylsdenblue said:
Took this 10 minutes prior to kick off.
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Why the fuck didn't they just put the barriers as aisles all the way down fans would have just filtered in, the problem here was people at the back once the got through didn't know about the cunts in riot gear so the fans at the front got pushed into the police and then got twatted this happened 3 times before we got into the stadium.
 
What would be interesting is to see the reports from our Security Officer Mr. Chisholm who was outside the ground and must have witnessed
a lot of what was going on.
Near the last pen another City Steward, an older guy, grey hair in a dark suit (reminded me a bit of Roy clark) turned up.
He was confronted by City fans outside the pen pointing to the treatment of the fans.
Well for a man of his age he as away like a sprinter. Didn't want to know.
There was also a women steward inside.
A mate of mine who has had an illness and walks with a stick was desperately trying to get up the stairs very slowly.
I came up behind and saw him being pushed by one of those bastards.
I pointed this out to her asked if there was a lift, more Robo Cops came, she just shrugged and we had to help him up till we came to the escalators.
So as I said at the start I would like to see what the so called Stewards put in their report.
 
M18CTID said:
Sorry mate - when I said nothing will happen, I wasn't talking about the club. I'm sure they'll do what they can but ultimately it will fall on deaf ears.
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Well if they dont the fans should fk the away games off,But if they do something about it & not just a PR stunt,They should make a serious complaint to eufa & publicize it so we no its genuine compliant.But i agree with you probable will fall on deaf ears...
 
FWIW, I've just fired the following e-mail off to the British Embassy in Madrid:

Good afternoon,

I'd like to register a complaint about the treatment of Manchester City fans at the hands of the Madrid police before and during our match versus Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabeu on Wednesday evening. I witnessed indiscriminate attacks on fellow supporters and I myself was also on the receiving end of an assault on the concourse for merely trying to make my way to my seat. Luckily I wasn't too seriously injured but some fans - including females - were badly hurt for no reason whatsoever.

I'm not sure what, if any, influence you can have over these incidents and I'm sure you receive many similar complaints each year - indeed, our supporters are not the first to suffer problems in Madrid over the years and the overriding impression I get is that the local police don't appear to be accountable to anybody, often meting out similar punishment to local residents at both football matches and peaceful protests. However, I find it astonishing that the police force in a major European country can consistently behave in such a draconian manner in this day and age and not be answerable for their actions.
 
M18CTID said:
That was just one of many incidents involving the police mate. They were a bunch of cunts, end of. There are comments on here including one from a fan who got battered for trying to protect his 6 months pregnant girlfriend.

I'm glad you didn't caught up in it but it's dangerous to think that because you weren't on the receiving end yourself it wasn't that bad because believe me, it was. Most fans caught in the chaos outside actually turned up much earlier than they would for a game over here and regardless of them not being used to big away followings in Spain, there were no issues getting us into the ground in Sevilla and Barca last year wasn't too bad either.

I didn't see any trouble in Plaza Mayor or anywhere else all day but even if it did happen, it would've involved a tiny minority of our support out there and is no excuse whatsoever for the indiscriminate police brutality. I got a twatting for trying to make my way to my seat from the concourse - no mouthing off from me or anything. It was completely and utterly unwarranted and one bloke who got similar treatment walked out of the ground in disgust.
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Guess we were lucky arriving 15 minutes before the majority. To be fair, I planned it that way as I needed to make sure I got home in one piece, I was working (chauffeur/security) on Thursday, and I couldn't turn up for my boss looking like a piece of red meat when he'd given me the day off to go to Madrid. He's a top boss who works his schedule around me so I can attend matches, and I'm lucky enough to have a great stress free job, so, although I had a few, I avoided some potential on purpose. This treatment of fans, particularly abroad isn't going to go away I guess, yes I've seen it and been involved in England over the years, I was going mid 70's, but at least our lot have some element of understanding and even listen sometimes. Till the next time then.....!
 
I am in that photo, thru the kettle, didn't get to my seat for another 20 minutes, missed first 10. in the third kettle for the CL tune.
 
roytoncity said:
I am in that photo, thru the kettle, didn't get to my seat for another 20 minutes, missed first 10. in the third kettle for the CL tune.
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You must have been near me I was at the third when the guy in the stretcher came out blood all over the floor
 
Blue Mist said:
I haven't had chance to read all the twelve pages before my post as I only returned at three this morning and now work is callling but the stories I have heard from genuine, decent blues who were on level three is sickening. A lady witnessed far worse violence than that captured on camera. Another young lady saw a lad beaten with batons for taking out his phone to record the attacks. He was beaten and then dragged out and she did not see him again. I have no reason to doubt the lady who I spent time with on the day of the match and met last night. It is not a crime to take a vid on your phone and that is what youngsters do, to be beaten savagley by police for doing just that is a disgrace.
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Wrong. The government approved the new security law in 2014, I think. Now taking photos or videos of a police, police car, ... Can be sanctioned with jail. So don't do that. You are foreigners, so you won't go to jail, but you will be beat up for sure.
 
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