Well done boss

[Walking on the blue moon]

The reason we were all relieved when Mancini was sacked was because he fought back beyond the point where he could win, right up until the Everton game there was a chance we could get the second title. He was cynically and disgracefully undermined and he knew it. Those on here who wailed for his end from before he was appointed are generally the same folk who have blindly backed Manuel as team perfomance deteriorated. Many are conspicuous by their absence these days.

Over the years I have wondered if Mancini has been wronged and deserved some of my sympathy too, but in my opinion he has to bear the fruit of his fault. I did not want to criticize him actually, after all he has been gone for three years. But yesterday afternoon I read some news about Inter that made me thought back to his final days again. When asked what caused his team to falter despite being at the top of the table in the beginning of the season, he told the press that it was the players' fault.

To me Mancini and Pellegrini are pot and kettle, I don't think they are really bad managers, in fact quite good ones, but they each have their fatal flaws that make them unsuitable to take City to the pinnacle. I never really dislike them though, for I could think of many managers who are worse than them. Maybe in a parallel universe we would probably be managed by Mourinho:P So sometimes I don't get why there seem to be a small portion of fans who seem to take personal hate to either of them. Perhaps I'm not passionate enough.:)

 

[BillyShears]

It will have to be a few levels as such to get to where we need to be as a club given how far we have regressed under MP.

I don't mind MP I just think he never got us playing anywhere near the level we should have with an non existent game plan and little nous as to how to outsmart most managers on match days.

We won what we did under his " guidance " with individual performances.

While we went AWOL in the last year of RM's tenure at least we played as a unit rather than a fractured bunch of strangers and given the massive investment we should have done much better over the three years.

Pep is capable of doing it but by a country mile his biggest challenge in football to date with his grooming at Barca and Bayern the grounding he needs.

If Leicester can go from 16th to a league title by swapping Pearson for Ranieri, I'm sure we can go from 4th/5th to a league title by swapping Pellegrini for Pep. It's really as simple as that. I realise that some people are going to be hysterical and talk about the size of the task at hand for Pep but it's really not the building from the ground up job that people are talking about. At least not in my opinion.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Best at slow tippy tappy short passing going down coal de sacs and not putting a tackle in football.
Its been absoulty riveting, and the ethiad atmosphere has taken a nose dive along with it

We should try and sign Koke in the summer to overcome that.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Flying planes over the ground and displaying placards calling for the manager's head during games is embarrassing.

I think that this season we've found our voice as fans over things like ticket prices, being pissed about by UEFA and the general lack of effort that's gone into preparing for games and playing them.

I think that our actions yesterday by walking out showed the suits that we aren't prepared to tolerate and reward mediocrity.

Respect has to be earned and I don't believe the executives, manager and players have shown enough to us, the paying customers. So the outcome was a mass walkout.

Words out my mouth.

 

[daztrueblue91]

If Leicester can go from 16th to a league title by swapping Pearson for Ranieri, I'm sure we can go from 4th/5th to a league title by swapping Pellegrini for Pep. It's really as simple as that. I realise that some people are going to be hysterical and talk about the size of the task at hand for Pep but it's really not the building from the ground up job that people are talking about. At least not in my opinion.

Totally agree with that.

We have a team with some top quality talent in it who have simply underperformed.

If Pep can get Silva and Nasri back to form and get Sterling to replicate his Liverpool form then we will have a formidable forward line.

The CM area needs a full revamp but that will only easy the process in getting Pep's methods across.

All in all I personally think we only need to replace Zab, Kolarov, Yaya, Demichellis and bring in a new CM then will will be ready to challenge for all honours.

 

[mancity1]

If Leicester can go from 16th to a league title by swapping Pearson for Ranieri, I'm sure we can go from 4th/5th to a league title by swapping Pellegrini for Pep. It's really as simple as that. I realise that some people are going to be hysterical and talk about the size of the task at hand for Pep but it's really not the building from the ground up job that people are talking about. At least not in my opinion.

Attitude has to change , younger fitter players with steel and quality bought in meaning a number of players on big wages with a poor attitude and fat contracts moved on which won't be a walk in the park.

I agree if anyone can do it quickly Pep can but he needs the DOF and Co on the same page and this rubbish about " holistic football " and players being appeased as they have for the past three years and given far too much rope because we have rich owners which doesn't wear any more anyway with TV distribution and more owners who can bankroll a club coming into ownership.

Complacency must be replaced with commitment and steel.

 

[BillyShears]

Attitude has to change , younger fitter players with steel and quality bought in meaning a number of players on big wages with a poor attitude and fat contracts moved on which won't be a walk in the park.

I agree if anyone can do it quickly Pep can but he needs the DOF and Co on the same page and this rubbish about " holistic football " and players being appeased as they have for the past three years and given far too much rope because we have rich owners which doesn't wear any more anyway with TV distribution and more owners who can bankroll a club coming into ownership.

Complacency must be replaced with commitment and steel.

Most of that stuff is stating the obvious tbf.

My one wish is that three years ago when they sacked Mancini that they hadn't used that word. It's been an easy stick to beat the club with subsequently. They should've just said what the truth was, which is that they Mancini's sacking was about his relationship with the board of directors rather than the players. The players just sealed his fate by downing tools. His card was already marked.

 

[baildon blue]

As much as I felt sorry for Pellegrini, he, the club, and the players had it coming.

They have lived in a bubble and taken the fans for granted, both in terms of what they see on the pitch before them and the increasing disconnect with the wider supporter base.

Yesterday, and this season, has been a deserved custard pie.

To put into context, there will be high-fives all round if we still make top-four.

A damning indictment.

Bang on the money

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Some stalls being set out early.
It's not social media game you know.

 

[BillyShears]

Totally agree with that.

We have a team with some top quality talent in it who have simply underperformed.

If Pep can get Silva and Nasri back to form and get Sterling to replicate his Liverpool form then we will have a formidable forward line.

The CM area needs a full revamp but that will only easy the process in getting Pep's methods across.

All in all I personally think we only need to replace Zab, Kolarov, Yaya, Demichellis and bring in a new CM then will will be ready to challenge for all honours.

Main thing is Pep is the best manager and coach in the world, he has a record of improving players and improving teams, he is the most desirable coach in the world to play for if you're a player, and in 7 days time he'll pretty much be our manager. I'll take that all day long. Even with the vast levels of gashness we've seen this season.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

The hysteria prevalent across Bluemoon and across social media in general. All a bit depressing really. Anyone would think we've been relegated. I genuinely think one or two feel like we've been relegated.

The thing is Billy we (owner, executives and supporters) view ourselves as an elite club now.

We were promoted to the elite, Champions League, level in 2011 and dependent upon results face relegation out of it in 2016. What makes it very hard to take is it's self inflicted - everybody could see the car crash that was about to unfold when the team against Southampton was announced - and we're potentially allowing our bitterest rival and biggest competitor to get promoted at our expense.

So yes, it does feel like we're about to be relegated because unless West Ham save us we are. It's no different than being relegated from the Premier League, the Championship or League One. It's all about the context of what level you're at. I'm sure Sheikh Mansour, Khaldoon and the Chinese view it that way. They aren't interested in York away or Dickov's miracle equaliser against Gillingham.

 

[baildon blue]

The thing is Billy we (owner, executives and supporters) view ourselves as an elite club now.

We were promoted to the elite, Champions League, level in 2011 and dependent upon results face relegation out of it in 2016. What makes it very hard to take is it's self inflicted - everybody could see the car crash that was about to unfold when the team against Southampton was announced - and we're potentially allowing our bitterest rival and biggest competitor to get promoted at our expense.

So yes, it does feel like we're about to be relegated because unless West Ham save us we are. It's no different than being relegated from the Premier League, the Championship or League One. It's all about the context of what level you're at. I'm sure Sheikh Mansour, Khaldoon and the Chinese view it that way. They aren't interested in York away or Dickov's miracle equaliser against Gillingham.

Bang on the money .

 

[GaudinoMotors]

The thing is Billy we (owner, executives and supporters) view ourselves as an elite club now.

We were promoted to the elite, Champions League, level in 2011 and dependent upon results face relegation out of it in 2016. What makes it very hard to take is it's self inflicted - everybody could see the car crash that was about to unfold when the team against Southampton was announced - and we're potentially allowing our bitterest rival and biggest competitor to get promoted at our expense.

So yes, it does feel like we're about to be relegated because unless West Ham save us we are. It's no different than being relegated from the Premier League, the Championship or League One. It's all about the context of what level you're at. I'm sure Sheikh Mansour, Khaldoon and the Chinese view it that way. They aren't interested in York away or Dickov's miracle equaliser against Gillingham.

Excellent summary

 

[BillyShears]

The thing is Billy we (owner, executives and supporters) view ourselves as an elite club now.

We were promoted to the elite, Champions League, level in 2011 and dependent upon results face relegation out of it in 2016. What makes it very hard to take is it's self inflicted - everybody could see the car crash that was about to unfold when the team against Southampton was announced - and we're potentially allowing our bitterest rival and biggest competitor to get promoted at our expense.

So yes, it does feel like we're about to be relegated because unless West Ham save us we are. It's no different than being relegated from the Premier League, the Championship or League One. It's all about the context of what level you're at. I'm sure Sheikh Mansour, Khaldoon and the Chinese view it that way. They aren't interested in York away or Dickov's miracle equaliser against Gillingham.

Don't agree with that at all. That's exactly the kind of hysteria i'm talking about. If you feel this is like being relegated you should give your head a wobble.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

So we are in the CL draw then?

 

[Eaglechief]

If Leicester can go from 16th to a league title by swapping Pearson for Ranieri, I'm sure we can go from 4th/5th to a league title by swapping Pellegrini for Pep. It's really as simple as that. I realise that some people are going to be hysterical and talk about the size of the task at hand for Pep but it's really not the building from the ground up job that people are talking about. At least not in my opinion.

For once Billy I actually agree with you!

I still believe we have the foundations of a very good team, which just needs some tweeking here and there to fit in with Pep's plans. We're not that bad a team in my opinion, we've just been poorly managed, but this will start to be resolved from 1st July 2016 onwards.
Though I do believe it might take Pep a little time to get the engine purring smoothly, perhaps a season at most.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Don't agree with that at all. That's exactly the kind of hysteria i'm talking about. If you feel this is like being relegated you should give your head a wobble.

How would this be viewed in Madrid, Barcelona or Munich? Perhaps they should give their heads a wobble too?

Personally I view them as winners. They are the clubs Sheikh Mansour wants to "knock off their perch".

We're not little City anymore. There's no excuse for judging us by lower standards than the big boys.

 

[blueinsa]

How would this be viewed in Madrid, Barcelona or Munich?

They would sack the manager.

Oh wait..................

 

[Marvin]

Most of that stuff is stating the obvious tbf.

My one wish is that three years ago when they sacked Mancini that they hadn't used that word. It's been an easy stick to beat the club with subsequently. They should've just said what the truth was, which is that they Mancini's sacking was about his relationship with the board of directors rather than the players. The players just sealed his fate by downing tools. His card was already marked.

The holistic stuff is the kind of language you get from executives trained at American schools of management and finance. It was amusing at the time.

The football problem was that Pellegrini tried to retain the core of Mancini's team beyond its natural shelf-life and I don't know whether that was his decision or his pay-masters. If I was a City player I'd have very quickly lost faith in what Pellegrini was trying to do so it's not surprising they downed tools. Your downed tools argument rings true. We have all moaned about the players, but without direction and a believable strategy, lethargy sets in. I don't think we'll ever know whether the stasis was due to Pellegrini or the lack of impetus from the club being in pre-Guardiola limbo (compounded by FFP). Man Utd also stagnated in the end years under Ferguson as the Glazer financial constraints set in.

 

[mancity1]

Don't agree with that at all. That's exactly the kind of hysteria i'm talking about. If you feel this is like being relegated you should give your head a wobble.

Not being relegated from the premiership but being relegated from the comp many including the owners believe is the comp we have to excel in with the manager saying needs domestic matches compromised if the best outcome is to be achieved.

That is not hysteria by any stretch , its more the attitude taken by the manager and the players in part as a result of this attitude which is second rate.

As said before MP was a nice guy but a poor manager in terms of getting the players to play as a team and getting the best out of them individually and collectively.