Gündogan moves to Manchester City
Bundesliga side Borussia Dortmund and Ilkay Gündogan will go their separate ways in future. The midfielder, who is currently suffering from a knee injury, will leave the eight-time German champions in the summer to join Manchester City, who finished fourth in the English Premier League last season, on 1 July 2016.
They got £21,000,000 for him, I wouldn't call that "nicked"!We have nicked one of their best players,no need for the bitter bit though
Agreed. If we lost Merlin, Kun and ginger Kev, we'd be sore as well. Mind you, they don't call us the Bitter Berties for nothing!no problem with it really. must be a nightmare as a dortmund fan, with all their fantastic support, to see their star players consistently cherrypicked.
Hummels gone, Gundogan gone, Aubameyang linked with leaving.
Just another Bayern Munich feeder club with a chip on their shoulder.
They must have been really gutted about Dante.They aren't or weren't a top club. Just a club on the rise. You cannot expect a club to be able to hold all the top players if you aren't one of the clubs on top of the food chain and do not pay the biggest wages or are able to guarantee trophies. And Dortmund just started to be out of the debt again after they had a real great time around the 2000 but that did not go hand in hand with managerial greatness. They need to keep working the way they did the recent years.
It is not just Bayern Munich - Kagawa went to United, Sahin to Real Madrid, Gündogan now to you. The players that left to Bayern would have left to one of the bigger and better paying clubs anyways.
Have I missed the many "sorrys" people offered for the other clubs in Germany that are the "feeder clubs" for Dortmund?
Gladbach just lost Harvard Nordveit to West Ham, Xhaka to Arsenal - and that is probably not the last one they will loose this summer... . And it is not the first season it is like this. They lost Reus to Dortmund, Dante to Bayern, Neustädter to Schalke, Ter Steegen to Barcelona, Kruse to Wolfsburg...
They must have been really gutted about Dante.
Subotic was a far better centre half both years. The best defender in both those years was Lahm, by a country mile, as he has been for the last 12 years.Dante has been the best defender in the league in 2011/12 and 2012/13. Not with the high line Pep is playing and not after the Confed Cup when he got a nomination for Brazil and recognised he is a Brazilian football artist...
Subotic was a far better centre half both years. The best defender in both those years was Lahm, by a country mile, as he has been for the last 12 years.
Thats a full weeks pocket money for the sheiks son. An absolute steal.They got £21,000,000 for him, I wouldn't call that "nicked"!
Subotic - no. But I might be biased as I really do not like him.
I think that's subjective based on the situations of both sides. Dortmund were certainly on a high, certainly in 2011/12, and Subotic was playing with a higher class of player. Dante with 'Gladbach were a team just coming off the back of the relegation playoff against Bochum the year previous, so the feats that Dante and 'Gladbach achieved (Champions League qualification) could probably be classed as 'better'. Plus, Dante was playing with people like Neustadter, de Camargo and Bobadilla. Close call, mind. The regression of Subotic since has been alarming, that may be because of the development of Sokratis however.Subotic was a far better centre half both years. The best defender in both those years was Lahm, by a country mile, as he has been for the last 12 years.
must be soul destroying to be a Dortmund fan. Regularly so close to success and the top, but their management is selling off their core and everything good they managed to create.
Tuchel has one of the hardest jobs in football next season, if he succeeds then he has to be a candidate for us after Pep.