Bitter Dortmund

aguero93:20 said:
They must have been really gutted about Dante.
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Dante has been the best defender in the league in 2011/12 and 2012/13. Not with the high line Pep is playing and not after the Confed Cup when he got a nomination for Brazil and recognised he is a Brazilian football artist...

But you probably understand why I wrote this - there is a lot who want to make a "big bad Bayern" story again. But it is just the way modern football runs. The best players want to go to the big clubs were they win the trophys, earn the best cash and get the highest recognition.

Bayern is not on the end of the food chain either right now and never really was. For Germany probably, yes, but the highest wages get paid elsewhere and the biggest attention worldwide you get if you play in the big clubs in the EPL or at Real or Barcelona.
 
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Maldeika said:
Dante has been the best defender in the league in 2011/12 and 2012/13. Not with the high line Pep is playing and not after the Confed Cup when he got a nomination for Brazil and recognised he is a Brazilian football artist...
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Subotic was a far better centre half both years. The best defender in both those years was Lahm, by a country mile, as he has been for the last 12 years.
 
must be soul destroying to be a Dortmund fan. Regularly so close to success and the top, but their management is selling off their core and everything good they managed to create.

Tuchel has one of the hardest jobs in football next season, if he succeeds then he has to be a candidate for us after Pep.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Subotic was a far better centre half both years. The best defender in both those years was Lahm, by a country mile, as he has been for the last 12 years.
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Subotic - no. But I might be biased as I really do not like him.

Lahm as a right back - yes. For sure. No need to start any discussion about that.

Tuchel has a lot success working with a group of young players. I am not sure that he did not even favour loosing Hummels because they did not really seem to be best friends - and between captain and coach there should always be a good relationship.

But - Tuchel is a tactic nerd like Guardiola is. Both met in a restaurant in Munich during Tuchel's Sabbatical and they most have had a very interesting talk with each others taking all kind of cutlery, napkins, pepper and salt etc. to symbolize players during their imaginary football matchs on the table...

Guardiola seems to have a funny side, too - he seems to have the most fun when he can be like the players and not their coach - with Tuchel I do not know if he has humour at all.
 
Don't see any problem with that statement by Dortmund at all. It doesn't strike me as bitter at all.

They knew he wanted to go, he signed a contract to give them a transfer fee.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Subotic was a far better centre half both years. The best defender in both those years was Lahm, by a country mile, as he has been for the last 12 years.
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I think that's subjective based on the situations of both sides. Dortmund were certainly on a high, certainly in 2011/12, and Subotic was playing with a higher class of player. Dante with 'Gladbach were a team just coming off the back of the relegation playoff against Bochum the year previous, so the feats that Dante and 'Gladbach achieved (Champions League qualification) could probably be classed as 'better'. Plus, Dante was playing with people like Neustadter, de Camargo and Bobadilla. Close call, mind. The regression of Subotic since has been alarming, that may be because of the development of Sokratis however.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
must be soul destroying to be a Dortmund fan. Regularly so close to success and the top, but their management is selling off their core and everything good they managed to create.

Tuchel has one of the hardest jobs in football next season, if he succeeds then he has to be a candidate for us after Pep.
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To be honest I think thats why they signed Tuchel, he has history with youth players, Dortmund have a lot of very good young players coming through. Ancelotti isn't a very good league manager, Dortmund could win the league next year. I agree though, it must be heartbreaking losing all your best/favourite players.


As for the comment, I could understand it from the fans but from the officials thats quite poor really. For that I hope Guendogan scores the winner against them in the Champions League.
 
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