The next Prime Minister of Britain

whp.blue said:
You may end up being correct in your assumption but let's be fair that is all it is at the moment an assumption,
to continue your horticultural analogy like weeds as they surface we can remove them and therefore stop them spreading.
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I'm not just talking about divisions between races, which are, to some extent, acute - but most probably managable, because there are laws to ameliorate racism; but rather class divisions, which could very well be endemic and much more difficult to contain imo. If a period of economic hardship follows from this vote, large numbers of the professional middle classes will (somewhat unfairly) blame it on the white working classes who delivered this result, an attitude which is arguably impossible to legislate against. I'm already starting to see signs of it, from people who I wouldn't have expected it from. Once that view becomes widely acceptable to be held, it will further damage social cohesion and make this country a much less pleasant one to live in.
 
FanchesterCity said:
I am not sure Johnson wants it at this moment. I think he's miscalculated his joust with Cameron and accidentally killed him too soon.
But since I voted remain, I think it's time for him to live by his words. His party aren't keen on him, but the Conservative electorate seem to be.
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Cameron used his last act of power to fuck Boris.

Boris was expecting Cameron to call article 50 then he could come swooping in blaming anything bad on Cameron and taking the glory for the good. All of a sudden Boris has to decide big he wants to be remembered as the man who takes us out of Europe and all the responsibility is his. We saw from his face how happy that's made him.

For all his faults Cameron is a pretty shrewd political operator.
 
whp.blue said:
You may end up being correct in your assumption but let's be fair that is all it is at the moment an assumption,
to continue your horticultural analogy like weeds as they surface we can remove them and therefore stop them spreading.
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If the electorate feel betrayed by the Leave campaign's rhetoric then it could get very ugly indeed. That's democracy of course but BJ in particular will have a hell of a lot to answer for. If, as suspected, he has used this campaign as merely a jockeying for position for PM without even a thought that we would actually vote for Brexit then that is more than just deceitful and negligible.
 
mackenzie said:
If the electorate feel betrayed by the Leave campaign's rhetoric then it could get very ugly indeed. That's democracy of course but BJ in particular will have a hell of a lot to answer for. If, as suspected, he has used this campaign as merely a jockeying for position for PM without even a thought that we would actually vote for Brexit then that is more than just deceitful and negligible.
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You are assuming that the electorate do feel betrayed, nobody I Know who voted leave feels anything like that. What happened was they felt betrayed by the remain rhetoric,
and the result is now what we have. There is a desperate attempt now being played out by sore losers to suggest we were all 'duped,' have no idea what we have done, and therefore
need to be lead by the hand towards another referendum, well we don't, won't, and the dreadful apocalyptic economic crash (pound is now a massive 8 cents down against the Euro, check
out the historic levels over the last 10 years), the fragmentation of society, and all the other scenarios being painted by a hurting remain camp will be as nothing if the will of the people
is ignored.

edit; Please excuse this layout, not intentional, comp must be fucked!
 
A poll (yes i know) of conservative voters has given May overwhelming support it would seem.

Be interesting to see if her fellow MP's and members share that view.

I think they will.
 
What chance Leadsom?

May looks to be guaranteed to make the shortlist. Most Remainers will be inclined to vote for her. If Boris is as unpopular among Tory MPs has has been claimed perhaps many Leaver MPs will vote for Leadsom rather than Johnson. If the anti Boris Remainers do the arithmetic perhaps enough of them would tactically vote for Leadsom to keep Johnson off the shortlist.

May v Leadsom should be a walkover for May. But Leadsom is the Leaver and she's already said that no free movement of labour is a red line for her.
 
blueinsa said:
A poll (yes i know) of conservative voters has given May overwhelming support it would seem.

Be interesting to see if her fellow MP's and members share that view.

I think they will.
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I think the membership will more in favour of a Leaver than the average Tory voter.
 
cibaman said:
I think the membership will more in favour of a Leaver than the average Tory voter.
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May kept her council very well during the campaign and could easily lead a brexit government imo.

It will be interesting to see which way it goes.
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Liam Fox Or Jeremy Hunt I reckon
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Liam Fox couldn't lead a scouts group and Jeremy Hunt is deeply unpopular over his handling of the junior doctors dispute. Can't see either have any chance whatsoever.

I think it's 90% likely to be the blond oaf, with 9% chance to Theresa May and 1% bar.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Liam Fox couldn't lead a scouts group and Jeremy Hunt is deeply unpopular over his handling of the junior doctors dispute. Can't see either have any chance whatsoever.

I think it's 90% likely to be the blond oaf, with 9% chance to Theresa May and 1% bar.
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I thought Johnson but he has been hammered by his own party to the point that I cant imagine he would win. Apparently May came out in a poll from the conservative voters, im not sure why but apparently and lately people have been saying IDS might even throw his hat in. Osbourne has been killed off with Cameron so we dont have to worry about that nut job getting the posistion
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
I thought Johnson but he has been hammered by his own party to the point that I cant imagine he would win. Apparently May came out in a poll from the conservative voters, im not sure why but apparently and lately people have been saying IDS might even throw his hat in. Osbourne has been killed off with Cameron so we dont have to worry about that nut job getting the posistion
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Haven't they thrown the vote open to the all party members? (Not sure why they've decided to do that.)

Boris is overwhelmingly popular amongst people who should have more sense and who can't see that he's an evil shit who puts his own personal self interests ahead of anyone and everything else. And stupid hair.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Haven't they thrown the vote open to the all party members? (Not sure why they've decided to do that.)

Boris is overwhelmingly popular amongst people who should have more sense and who can't see that he's an evil shit who puts his own personal self interests ahead of anyone and everything else. And stupid hair.
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Well I think people can see he has stupid hair!
Well all the polls point to May, not sure if thats good or bad.
 
Hunt, much like Morgan is a walking disaster and though they may like to be leader, they have no chance.
 
without a dream said:
Would be fairly brave, his personal life would surely come back under public scrutiny.
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Have i missed something?

If its he is gay, dont think anyone will give a shit to be honest and neither should they.

That said, May will walk it.
 
cibaman said:
If it comes to a vote between May and Johnson I expect, unfortunately, that it will be won by whoever promises to reduce immigration by the most.
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Thing is this time that won't be enough. They will have to outline HOW they would do that - Leave showed how open to interpretation aspirational statements like that can be and I suspect so close to that any contender promising anything will be closely scrutinised.
 
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