MeatnSpudsMCFC
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Excellent. *pops flare*
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Labour / Tory Party meltdown Referendum fallout
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kaz7
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Ridiculous he doesn't have to get the nominations,there is no point trying to go up against him in that case,fix
Ridiculous he doesn't have to get the nominations,there is no point trying to go up against him in that case,fix
I can see both points of view. However, it is now down to Labour Party membership and that is more democratic.
Would surprise me if there WASN'T a party split after this, but that might be a good thing in a way.
whp.blue
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He gets my vote again
The guy is doing a fantastic job of keeping my chosen govt in power
The guy is doing a fantastic job of keeping my chosen govt in power
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kaz7
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He should have had to get the 51 nominations,if he can't get his mp's on his side he is wrong to continue,democratic vote for the members yes but he has to have the support of the people he works with and is in charge ofI can see both points of view. However, it is now down to Labour Party membership and that is more democratic.
Prestwich_Blue
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Interesting to see what happens if he wins again. Chances of a split if that happens must be very high.
You have to laugh though. Dodgy Dave calls a referendum which he loses and it's Labour which tears itself apart.
You have to laugh though. Dodgy Dave calls a referendum which he loses and it's Labour which tears itself apart.
urban genie
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Ridiculous he doesn't have to get the nominations,there is no point trying to go up against him in that case,fix
18-14 vote by NEC hardly a stitch up, party rules are a grey area here and the coup lot saying about kinnock having to get nominations are wrong he never needed to get them either when challenged but wanted to to prove his support was still their nowt to do with a party rule.
The PLP have been fucking this up from the start and look more and more in chaos and unorganised in their coup, and unelectable if they had got rid of him anyway. not thouggt through at all.
He should have had to get the 51 nominations,if he can't get his mp's on his side he is wrong to continue,democratic vote for the members yes but he has to have the support of the people he works with and is in charge of
Maybe they are the problem though, not him.
kaz7
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If they all resign he is the problem,you don't watch someone tear apart your party and do nothing,they could never unite to fight an election.As a labour party member i am furious about the whole thing,he has wasted a year doing nothing but giving speech's to his supporters onlyMaybe they are the problem though, not him.
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I don't think anyone in the Labour Party comes out with any credit - the MPs have conducted themselves poorly and Corbyn stubbornly staying on when, quite clearly, he isn't leader of the opposition material, never mind PM material. Corbyn seems very lazy, it's ok having unconventional views but he needs to put himself in position to argue/implement, which he isn't doing
As for Eagle, she appears totally unlikeable and I can't see her coming close.
Maybe Corbyn will win them resign.......
As for Eagle, she appears totally unlikeable and I can't see her coming close.
Maybe Corbyn will win them resign.......
bluemoonmatt
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really, nothing like the vitriol momentum hand out I'm sure. I reckon they all have targets, You owe me 100 anti corbyn scalps. And I ant my scalpsCorbyn has had them too. Some proper cnuts about.
gordondaviesmoustache
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We can but dream.The best thing that could happen is that we get more, smaller parties. The right wing of the Tories go to UKIP, the centre-right of Labour form a new centre-left party plus there's still the Lib-Dems. Maybe the hard and soft left even split.
That will increase the pressure for some sort of PR and will mean permanent coalition governments.
MeatnSpudsMCFC
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Had the PLP put up a viable candidate to challenge Corbyn then I doubt many would have such an issue. But Angela Eagle? How can she possibly be considered more electable than Corbyn? Her voting record is atrocious. Labour has been in trouble for a long time and people like her, Harman and Cooper are part of the problem.
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whp.blue
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Maybe Corbyn will win them resign.......
Not in a million years he is a career politician
If they all resign he is the problem,you don't watch someone tear apart your party and do nothing,they could never unite to fight an election.As a labour party member i am furious about the whole thing,he has wasted a year doing nothing but giving speech's to his supporters only
Before Corbyn was elected, the Labour Party, in Opposition under Harriet Harman, agreed to Austerity measures. The Welfare Reforms etc etc.
I'm not saying Corbyn is the answer but I defend his right to at least have a voice over shit like that. If you want a Labour Party that gets elected having adopted Tory Lite policies then fair enough, but this country needs a voice that is the alternative.
urban genie
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really, nothing like the vitriol momentum hand out I'm sure. I reckon they all have targets, You owe me 100 anti corbyn scalps. And I ant my scalps
No both sides are as bad people crying at bristol clp meeting after threats and abuse from blairites, violence threatened to corbyn supporters at a brighton clp event and today Gorton clp which I am a member of suspended after it was reported for threats of violence and vote rigging again from the right of the party.
Mommentum are reported more on because it suits the narrative of the main stream media, both sides have cunts and both should be reported equally.
Hamann Pineapple
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That will be, no doubt, the media angle from here on in. Corbyn will be Trump by September.No both sides are as bad people crying at bristol clp meeting after threats and abuse from blairites, violence threatened to corbyn supporters at a brighton clp event and today Gorton clp which I am a member of suspended after it was reported for threats of violence and vote rigging again from the right of the party.
Mommentum are reported more on because it suits the narrative of the main stream media, both sides have cunts and both should be reported equally.
Eagles may get deselected in Wallasey.
Hamann Pineapple
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If he wins the Blairites will join up with the Tory Remain MP's to form a new party.Interesting to see what happens if he wins again. Chances of a split if that happens must be very high.
You have to laugh though. Dodgy Dave calls a referendum which he loses and it's Labour which tears itself apart.
urban genie
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That will be, no doubt, the media angle from here on in. Corbyn will be Trump by September.
Eagles may get deselected in Wallasey.
If the bbc news post it John McTernans mini breakdown has been hilarious.
On a side note the NEC have barred new registered members after feb 1st from voting and any new registrations will be £25 initial payment
west didsblue
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That might have happened if Boris, Gove or Leadsom won the leadership contest but now they'll all unite behind May.If he wins the Blairites will join up with the Tory Remain MP's to form a new party.