Navas on his way ?

stony said:
I can think of a few I'd rather shift before him, but I won't complain if we upgrade.
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Think we're struggling to get players out. Navas is one of the few who we have a suitor lined up for, and is open to the move. I'm sure there are others the club would prefer to go, but it's proving difficult.
 
Ric said:
Think we're struggling to get players out. Navas is one of the few who we have a suitor lined up for, and is open to the move. I'm sure there are others the club would prefer to go, but it's proving difficult.
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I thought as much. It's what you get when you offer big fat contracts as an incentive to sign. If they don't work out you're either stuck with them or have to pay them off.
 
Feed the Elk said:
Eh? The flags will be out at my house at least - he's broken down so many decent positions and attacks it's untrue. What was that stat? Most shots in the league without a single goal - get rid Pep, ASAFP.
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I don't like or dislike players solely on their abilities. Hardwork and passion come first for me and I never had a problem with Navas in that regard.
 
Ric said:
Think we're struggling to get players out. Navas is one of the few who we have a suitor lined up for, and is open to the move. I'm sure there are others the club would prefer to go, but it's proving difficult.
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I think its also important to remember that Navas is in the final year of his contract, getting some return makes more sense than letting him walk for free next summer. The lad had alot of stick since he's arrived but always given 100% but sadly, as we struggling to reduce our squad numbers, I think he might end up being one of the first to go.
 
stony said:
I thought as much. It's what you get when you offer big fat contracts as an incentive to sign. If they don't work out you're either stuck with them or have to pay them off.
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We should be in a much better position on that front next summer. Think there are about seven players whose contracts expire in 2017. Will free up a lot of space on the wage bill.
 
My fear is we will stagnate one more year with all unwanted players, lose one precious year under pep. Any news on Bony, Kolarov? @Ric
 
stony said:
I thought as much. It's what you get when you offer big fat contracts as an incentive to sign. If they don't work out you're either stuck with them or have to pay them off.
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We'll get rid of most that we don't want imho, as there'll be a scramble come the end of August, and despite being surplus here, they'll walk into most teams across Europe, we'll take a hit on fee's but I'm sure they're already geared up to that anyway.
 
cleavers said:
We'll get rid of most that we don't want imho, as there'll be a scramble come the end of August, and despite being surplus here, they'll walk into most teams across Europe, we'll take a hit on fee's but I'm sure they're already geared up to that anyway.
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Not so sure about that. The clubs interested in certain players will not be able to provide a wage packet to convince them to join. I wouldn't be surprised if we have to loan a few senior players out (whilst contributing heavily to their wages), just to get rid of the excess foreigners in the squad.
 
itisrising said:
I don't like or dislike players solely on their abilities. Hardwork and passion come first for me and I never had a problem with Navas in that regard.
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I get the impression under Pep that effort, handwork and passion are a given - hopefully talent will be the differentiating factor which is why Navas is being shown the door. Sorry
 
Feed the Elk said:
I get the impression under Pep that effort, handwork and passion are a given - hopefully talent will be the differentiating factor which is why Navas is being shown the door. Sorry
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Too many lethergic performances from quite a few players last season but Navas was never guilty of that. I'm not necessarily against him leaving, but I don't think he should be the first. The likes of Yaya, Nasri, Kolarov, Bony etc should be top of the list.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Not so sure about that. The clubs interested in certain players will not be able to provide a wage packet to convince them to join. I wouldn't be surprised if we have to loan a few senior players out (whilst contributing heavily to their wages), just to get rid of the excess foreigners in the squad.
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I said "get rid" not sell, so loans are included.

Personally I'm relaxed, and I'm happy that Pep is giving everyone a look for now, those that are surplus will be told, and if they want to play, will need their agents to find them a new gig.
 
itisrising said:
Too many lethergic performances from quite a few players last season but Navas was never guilty of that. I'm not necessarily against him leaving, but I don't think he should be the first. The likes of Yaya, Nasri, Kolarov, Bony etc should be top of the list.
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Agree
 
I think Bony, Kolarov, Nasri and possibly Yaya are higher on Pep's list of players to sell. But Navas might come next. So he could leave. Which would leave us with 3 natural wide players. Sterling, Nolito and Sane (assuming we get him). With Nasri, KDB and Silva capable of playing there. However, in January when hopefully Jesus arrives.... :) We'd have 4 natural wide options again. So it shouldn't be a big loss.
 
I like Navas as a person and I like his efforts but he lacks that little bit of extra quality and his decision making infuriates me at times.

It wouldn't be the end of the world to see him go but you could say that about half the squad!
 
itisrising said:
Too many lethergic performances from quite a few players last season but Navas was never guilty of that. I'm not necessarily against him leaving, but I don't think he should be the first. The likes of Yaya, Nasri, Kolarov, Bony etc should be top of the list.
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Main issue is just finding a team that will take them and getting them to leave. It's a two-way street. If Sevilla is actually interested and Navas would like the move, then I think we should let him go. We have a litany of attacking mids/wingers -- I think Zinchenko could slot into the role well as a rotation option and obviously Sane will be fighting for first choice depending on where he puts Silva/Sterling/KDB.
 
abellwillring said:
Main issue is just finding a team that will take them and getting them to leave. It's a two-way street. If Sevilla is actually interested and Navas would like the move, then I think we should let him go. We have a litany of attacking mids/wingers -- I think Zinchenko could slot into the role well as a rotation option and obviously Sane will be fighting for first choice depending on where he puts Silva/Sterling/KDB.
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It all goes back into us originally signing these players and over-paying for their services. No one will pay Yaya close to 220K a week. No one will pay 25M for Bony. We've backed ourselves into a corner which is certainly frustrating as we've seemed to have this problem for years e.g. Adebayor.
 
Surely some not so intelligent Chinese clubs are the best options for yaya, bony, kolarov, zabaleta and possibly navas. I can't see delph being part of a pep team considering his limited technical ability, but maybe cause he's English we could sell him to a pl club for say £15m
 
itisrising said:
Too many lethergic performances from quite a few players last season but Navas was never guilty of that. I'm not necessarily against him leaving, but I don't think he should be the first. The likes of Yaya, Nasri, Kolarov, Bony etc should be top of the list.
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Yet id say some of those still contributed more. Get out of the Dickov syndrome.
 
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