Slovakia v England match thread

ninjamonkey said:
I agree. We've resigned ourselves to treading water for however long fat Sam is in charge. Eddie Howe was my choice too. It needed a complete overhaul of both players and style and an acceptance of maybe not even making the next world cup in preference of having a team that actually has a chance of doing something a few years down the line.
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Didn't France miss the 1994 World Cup?

That didn't turn out too badly at the next tournament, did it?
 
Neville Kneville said:
Sterling had good & bad moments. Notas good as for City on the whole but not bad either. Was one of the only players actually looking for the ball & trying to do anything with it.

Stones was excellent on the ball, better than the midfield & mostly ok at defending but not asked any questions. All in all, the best player on the pitch but he of course isn't allowed to be named that officially.
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Cheers NK
 
dennishasdoneit said:
I admire your backing of England mate.after all that's what being a fan is all about.Only saw the last 15 mins and heard a bit of the first half on radio 5 so can't really comment on the performance..
But where do you get the idea that Slovakia is a tough place to go ?
Never in a million years would I describe Slovakia as tough.unless you are arguing that any international match away from home is "tough"... as in tough for England because they are not very good..please explain.
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They held us and beat Russia in the Euro's. They beat Germany 3-1 in a friendly before that and won 8 out of 10 games in there qualifying group including Ukraine and Switzerland, there ranked 28th in the world.

So yes totally agree they are no world beaters and we are expected to win - but comfortably no. It's like say Man City going away to a Stoke or a West Brom. Man City should win but it won't be easy, the opposition will sit deep, go in hard and make life difficult. Plus the fact your away and in front of hostile crowd.
 
Rooney "can play where he wants." May as well make him player-manager and save a few million a year on paying someone else.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
They held us and beat Russia in the Euro's. They beat Germany 3-1 in a friendly before that and won 8 out of 10 games in there qualifying group including Ukraine and Switzerland, there ranked 28th in the world.

So yes totally agree they are no world beaters and we are expected to win - but comfortably no. It's like say Man City going away to a Stoke or a West Brom. Man City should win but it won't be easy, the opposition will sit deep, go in hard and make life difficult. Plus the fact your away and in front of hostile crowd.
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They were hopeless. Absolutely hopeless.

Robbie Mak, one of their main attacking players, is from City's youth team. He wouldn't get in City's youth team now ability wise at 25. He's fast & works hard but as a footballer, he hasn't got the brains or pass & move skills, to contribute.

Rather like Henderson etc.

People such as yourself, packaging this fucking shite as acceptable, from a country of 54 million whose main sport is football, are the problem. It's SHITE. It's unacceptable. But we have been dumbed down by thes cunts, into believing it is the best we can do.

It allows these fucking wankers to ride along on the gravy train. They are in coaching, in management, in the FA, in our fucking teams. Stealing a fucking living & selling us shit as gold. We have legislation to make us pick them, because otherwise they can't get a fucking game, because we can pick up players from Botswana who are better, for fuck all. Why ? Because they have been coached by Fat Sam's Army since they could walk.

The fucking lot of them & their mates in the media, need dropping in the fucking sea, somewhere near the North Pole.

Then start again.
 
FS now admitting Fat Boy does whatever he wants! 'I can't tell him where to play!' Yes you can you are the boss. Once again player egos come before the team - when will we ever learn. We need 11 players - pulling in the same direction with 100 percent commitment to the cause. Remember the friendly in Germany without Fat Boy, or what Wales have achieved. Another coward in the England Mansgers job - bowing to the FA and managed by the media.
 
Allardyce, who took over from Roy Hodgson in July, says he "can't stop" Rooney from dropping into midfield, claiming that the player has a "lot more experience at international football" than he does.

"It's not for me to say where he's going to play," added the former Sunderland, West Ham, Newcastle and Bolton boss, 61. "It's up to me to ask whether he's doing well in that position and contributing."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37271746

YOU'RE THE FUCKING ENGERLAND MANAGER YOU FAT ****. YOU TELL THE PLAYERS WHERE THEY PLAY!!!!
 
I actually think Sam was being sarcastic when he said that and he has Clarkied the press.
 
Defence is fine, Attack is potentially fine, it's the shit in midfield that are holding this team back

Henderson - doesn't really offer anything going forward or backwards
Dier - Solid at his job but lacks the passing to launch attacks etc so needs creative players next to him, English Fernando
Rooney - get the ball at left cm, take a touch inside, pass out to the right back, repeat(watch how often he'll do this vs us on the weekend)

--------------------Dier------------------
------Alli/Barkley------Wilshere-----
 
Let's just accept that England are on a par with the likes of Wales, Poland, Turkey and Croatia ... and set our expectations accordingly.
 
mat said:
Allardyce, who took over from Roy Hodgson in July, says he "can't stop" Rooney from dropping into midfield, claiming that the player has a "lot more experience at international football" than he does.

"It's not for me to say where he's going to play," added the former Sunderland, West Ham, Newcastle and Bolton boss, 61. "It's up to me to ask whether he's doing well in that position and contributing."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37271746

YOU'RE THE FUCKING ENGERLAND MANAGER YOU FAT ****. YOU TELL THE PLAYERS WHERE THEY PLAY!!!!
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Exactly !!!!!
 
mat said:
I'd believe that if he drops the granny shagger from his next squad.
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He will not.
Nor will Jose
Nor did van gal
Nor did moyes.
Contractual issues underpin so much of big business such as football.Whoever advises Wayne Elephant (in the room) imo should be knighted,cos when he held fergie scum and the rags to ransom those few years ago he got probably the most brilliant contract ever given in the history of football. He is clearly contracted to play,if fit ,for utd and England and cannot be dropped.the 300k per week means he is stealing a living and taking the piss out of his club side and the national team.is his agent still Paul Stretford? Whoever he is he makes Yaya and pogba agents look like amateurs....and yet this clever man gets no grief from the media.the player has been awful for a good three seasons now and there is not a single thing any person can do to halt the embarrassing scenario cos Rooney, the elephant, is protected by contract law.
The announcement from Ellie that he is to play for england for a further two years merely confirms my view that that as far as utd and England are concerned the tail is definitely wagging the dog.
I ,for one am pleased he is holding back utd,imagine if they had a skilful,mobile goalscoring no.10..one who scores and assists with the regularity a top class player on a huge contract should. At the moment Ellie has about as much cutting edge as Paul Dickov...good thing his agent is a little sharper...
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Missed most of the match
Can anyone please give us a run down on sterling and stones performances, I'm aware Raheem was subbed.was that down to being ineffective.?
How was Stones defending and passing out from the back..?
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I was driving home and listening on TalkShite for the commentary.

Sterling had a good game, and was one of the few players receiving some credit for trying to make things happen. Most of the blame was put at Kane's door for not offering to feet and letting people run off him, i.e. we kept going sideways and backwards.

Stuart Pearce was crying out for Stones and Dier to be swapped to let Stones play in midfield and dictate getting the ball forward as he was the only only trying to play between the lines.

Certainly from listening, it sounded like both of them tried to implement what Pep has been teaching them, in getting the ball forward and play, but didnt have the required support to do it effectivly.
 
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