the sale of F1

[KippaxNI]

Hi all, I only really took note of this over the weekend but it was said that Mr Ecclestone would be in talks this week re the sale of Formula 1. Has anyone heard who the talks are with? any rumours.........surely the Good Sheik would have an interest ...........

 

[mat]

Hi all, I only really took note of this over the weekend but it was said that Mr Ecclestone would be in talks this week re the sale of Formula 1. Has anyone heard who the talks are with? any rumours.........surely the Good Sheik would have an interest ...........

Liberty Media with to buy it. The sticking point is the current small man syndrome, tax dodger who wants to stay in his role to keep his sepp blatter like privileges. He was asked outright by Martin brundle yesterday and got the stare which made the ex F1 driver shit his pants and change the subject.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I lost interest in F1 a long time ago. The competition is won and lost in the techy arena way before any petrol gets burned. It’s then a big parade with only which driver in the dominant team and the minor places to be sorted out on the track, even that is decided by pit stops, mechanical failures and crashes.

I don’t think the current owner has do anywhere near enough to keep it competitive and keep the driver skill element relevant.

 

[KippaxNI]

Cheers for that, I did notice the 'LOOK' LOL, none have the balls to call him out.....but then they like the cushy job .....

 

[TCIB]

It is a shit 'sport', i'd call the **** out, was a sport once, now a show of manufacturing technical excellence.

 

[law74]

You see better overtaking manoeuvres on any motorway just before rush hour, more entertainment as well

 

[Why Always Ste]

Bore fest... MotoGP is much more interesting as a race event.

 

[mat]

It is a shit 'sport', i'd call the **** out, was a sport once, now a show of manufacturing technical excellence.

With a bent as fuck prize money tally. Ferrari, in my mind are the rags of F1, get the biggest cut because they threaten to walk away every couple of years.

There's no real competition allowed. It's almost like cycles for engine manufacturers winning it. 7 years Mercedes, 7 years Renault, etc. Same two drivers competing in the same car whilst everyone else fights for scraps. Probably explains why Button is having a year out. If he was in the Mercedes rather than Hamilton he'd be on for another world title rather than having the equivalent of a tuk tuk failing him.

 

[SWP's back]

Fucking great sport. Not Mercedez fault the others haven't caught up since the introduction of the hybrid engines.

And it was always a road show of technical excellence. The difference right now is that one manufacturer is head and shoulders above the rest.

 

[Mike N]

As someone mentioned above, I lost interest in F1 years ago. Pity as I used to be quite into it. Wouldn't bother my backside to catch it now, bores me to death.

 

[SWP's back]

There's more overtaking now then there's every been.

This thread is like me slagging off WWE for being passed its best of years ago when the reality is that I don't now, so I wouldn't have a clue. Like half the respondents above.

 

[jay_mcfc]

I've really enjoyed watching it this year. Betting on match race bets helps keep an interest throughout the field. BEIAC though.

 

[kashmir]

Used to be a great weekend away watching now only time they use full power with no limits is qualifying
Race day now dull as dish water,part electric engines,dodgy tyres that you have to look after,massive run off areas,limit on how much fuel you can use,exhaust noise that sounds like a pissed up bee
Fuck the tax dodger and get back to proper cars that sound and drive right and arnt full of electric gadgets

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

There's more overtaking now then there's every been.

This thread is like me slagging off WWE for being passed its best of years ago when the reality is that I don't now, so I wouldn't have a clue. Like half the respondents above.

I agree mate, I've always liked F1 and for years its always been my go to sport when feeling rough on a Sunday. I love the glamour and glitz of it all and as for it being a technical display, of course it is and always has been, its the pinnacle of motor sport, if it wasnt they should just race around in exactly the same go karts.

One thing I dont like at the moment is the tyres, I preferred it when they went hell for leather for the entire race (and you see things like Senna collapsing after the race through shear exhaustion having given it everything and being on the limit every lap) rather than a few laps and the rest of the time saving the tyres and conserving the fuel. Hopefully with the changes to specifications and the promise of tyres that will last a whole stint next season, this will be remedied. They have suggested reintroducing refueling as well. In the past fans thought that this meant races were decided on the pit wall rather than the track but that was because over taking was so hard when refueling was in the sport, now I think it would add another level of intrigue.

The other thing that is annoying is that the teams have too much say in the rules and the make up of the sport, fine that they are consulted, but every other sport, the governing body states the rules and the teams have to abide by the rules or not bother. When sides that compete get involved it usually ends up that the richest most influential teams hold sway, FFPR being an example of that.

 

[SWP's back]

I agree mate, I've always liked F1 and for years its always been my go to sport when feeling rough on a Sunday. I love the glamour and glitz of it all and as for it being a technical display, of course it is and always has been, its the pinnacle of motor sport, if it wasnt they should just race around in exactly the same go karts.

One thing I dont like at the moment is the tyres, I preferred it when they went hell for leather for the entire race (and you see things like Senna collapsing after the race through shear exhaustion having given it everything and being on the limit every lap) rather than a few laps and the rest of the time saving the tyres and conserving the fuel. Hopefully with the changes to specifications and the promise of tyres that will last a whole stint next season, this will be remedied. They have suggested reintroducing refueling as well. In the past fans thought that this meant races were decided on the pit wall rather than the track but that was because over taking was so hard when refueling was in the sport, now I think it would add another level of intrigue.

The other thing that is annoying is that the teams have too much say in the rules and the make up of the sport, fine that they are consulted, but every other sport, the governing body states the rules and the teams have to abide by the rules or not bother. When sides that compete get involved it usually ends up that the richest most influential teams hold sway, FFPR being an example of that.

Yeah. Very good post.

 

[ultimateharold]

Hopefully they fuck Tilke off.

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

I agree mate, I've always liked F1 and for years its always been my go to sport when feeling rough on a Sunday. I love the glamour and glitz of it all and as for it being a technical display, of course it is and always has been, its the pinnacle of motor sport, if it wasnt they should just race around in exactly the same go karts.

One thing I dont like at the moment is the tyres, I preferred it when they went hell for leather for the entire race (and you see things like Senna collapsing after the race through shear exhaustion having given it everything and being on the limit every lap) rather than a few laps and the rest of the time saving the tyres and conserving the fuel. Hopefully with the changes to specifications and the promise of tyres that will last a whole stint next season, this will be remedied. They have suggested reintroducing refueling as well. In the past fans thought that this meant races were decided on the pit wall rather than the track but that was because over taking was so hard when refueling was in the sport, now I think it would add another level of intrigue.

The other thing that is annoying is that the teams have too much say in the rules and the make up of the sport, fine that they are consulted, but every other sport, the governing body states the rules and the teams have to abide by the rules or not bother. When sides that compete get involved it usually ends up that the richest most influential teams hold sway, FFPR being an example of that.

Drivers mainly collapsed in the past due to engine design and heat shield efficiency coupled with the rigour of manual gear changes and clutch presses rather than them going flat out on tyres for longer.

I would also suggest that although drivers might look as thin as they did in the past today's drivers are on a different level when it comes to overall fitness.

 

[Irwell]

Personally I would rather they split F1 in two. The first would be a manufacturers formula with self-driving cars where the manufacturers try to make the fastest car possible within the limits of a set of rules and their own ingenuity. This would essentially be current F1 without the drivers. The second would be a drivers formula where the very best drivers compete in a level playing field based on a standard car. The winning manufacturer's car, minus the self-driving mechanism, would be used as the basis for the next season's drivers formula car. It would be very difficult to implement though, given the current driver contracts and sponsorship deals.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Drivers mainly collapsed in the past due to engine design and heat shield efficiency coupled with the rigour of manual gear changes and clutch presses rather than them going flat out on tyres for longer.

I would also suggest that although drivers might look as thin as they did in the past today's drivers are on a different level when it comes to overall fitness.

On the current Pirelli tyres drivers push fully for a maximum 5 laps of a stint, the rest of the time they conserve their tyres. Even going back 5 years they could push all the way and close gaps far more quickly, for example when Button pushed Vettel, coming from the back to cause Vettel to make a mistake and go wide to get the win. On this tyre he simply wouldnt have been able to do that. Senna collapsed in Brazil having cramps from the effort of trying to keep the car under control because he was being pushed all the race by Mansell, neither having to conserve anything, so much so they both broke their gearboxs to boot.

Drivers are fitter and the cars are easier to drive but the drivers arent on the limit but for their out lap and their in lap, you hear things like Hammertime, when Hamilton drives all out for the maximum of 2 laps, its rubbish, all because Bernie wants tyres that go off, then you get Pirelli insisting on very high tyre pressures to limit failures, so the tyres go off even quicker. Let the drivers actually race and give them the tyres to.

 

[malg]

There's more overtaking now then there's every been.

This thread is like me slagging off WWE for being passed its best of years ago when the reality is that I don't now, so I wouldn't have a clue. Like half the respondents above.

I know you'll appreciate this...........'past'........