Burnley - Post Match Thread

OrigamiNinja said:
We scored two scrappy goals and created very little over the course of the game. We might get away with resting both, if any of our wingers were on top form but they're clearly struggling at the moment. Without KDB & Silva we struggled for any creativity. We got away with it yesterday, we might not get away with it against a half decent side.
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Match Stats
Home TeamBurnleyAway TeamMan City
Possession
Home33%
Away67%
Shots
Home10
Away21
Shots on Target
Home5
Away5
Corners
Home5
Away8
Fouls
Home8
Away15
cant wait until we do create chances,
that's a chance every 4 or so minutes,after a champs league game on a Wednesday and we were away from home against a "local" side in a derby atmosphere
 
OrigamiNinja said:
We scored two scrappy goals and created very little over the course of the game. We might get away with resting both, if any of our wingers were on top form but they're clearly struggling at the moment. Without KDB & Silva we struggled for any creativity. We got away with it yesterday, we might not get away with it against a half decent side.
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That's the whole point, pep would not play that line up against a decent side, he took the opposition into account and picked a team to play them, it's called managing resource and I think pep if very good at it :-)
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
Absolutely agree. But we've some very biased posters on here ignoring the clear fact that play did go on and it was a foul. So the ref cocked up twice. At no time does that not make it a penalty., unless you get into hypotecthical arguments about instant replays etc. In the laws of the game yesterday, the ref made two bad calls. One was the offside, so play continued. That's not up for debate, it continued. Then, he makes a second bad call, by not giving the penalty. We were very lucky boys in that instance.
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Just as we were very unlucky boys when the offside wasn't given. Luck evened out, ultimately the correct decision was arrived at so I'm not really sure what your point is.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
Absolutely agree. But we've some very biased posters on here ignoring the clear fact that play did go on and it was a foul. So the ref cocked up twice. At no time does that not make it a penalty., unless you get into hypotecthical arguments about instant replays etc. In the laws of the game yesterday, the ref made two bad calls. One was the offside, so play continued. That's not up for debate, it continued. Then, he makes a second bad call, by not giving the penalty. We were very lucky boys in that instance.
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No we were unlucky they didn't spot the offsides.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
That it doesn't let the referee off just because luck evened out.
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So are you saying you wanted the penalty to be awarded against us or wanted the officials to make all the correct calls, if you want the correct decisions then there wouldn't have been a chance for a penalty shout
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
That it doesn't let the referee off just because luck evened out.
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Tbh I think you're just being incredibly contrary for no reason at all. It's good luck when a decision goes out way but not bad luck when one goes against us, that seems to be the point you're making. You'd be a good addition to BT sport.
 
peace frog said:
Match Stats
Home TeamBurnleyAway TeamMan City
Possession
Home33%
Away67%
Shots
Home10
Away21
Shots on Target
Home5
Away5
Corners
Home5
Away8
Fouls
Home8
Away15
cant wait until we do create chances,
that's a chance every 4 or so minutes,after a champs league game on a Wednesday and we were away from home against a "local" side in a derby atmosphere
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We got the job done just as we did the week before but we didn't play well and very few of those 21 shots were clear cut chances, I mean you can knock off 1 shot from the total every single game for Kolarovs standard 40 yard effort.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
Tbh I think you're just being incredibly contrary for no reason at all. It's good luck when a decision goes out way but not bad luck when one goes against us, that seems to be the point you're making. You'd be a good addition to BT sport.
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jesus is it that hard to take the two incidents as individual to each other? Because when you do, the foul was clearly a penalty. People need to stop going "well this happened before it". It doesn't matter. Play continued, then the foul occurred. They aren't the same incident so stop treating them like they were just because it suits.

I'm delighted the ref ballsed up. It may have had zero influence on the overall game, who knows? But stop trying to justify a foul by reaching out to some other thing.

I'll ask again, if we were on the receiving end of that foul, would you not be up in arms, offside or not?
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
Deep breath buddy. It doesnt matter one bit if if he was off or not.

Two separate incidents to look at.

The foul was a penalty.

So the refs got two things wrong. That doesn't make one right, nor should they cancel each other out ffs.

And the funny thing is, if we were on the other end of that, you'd be the first one moaning.
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No I wouldn't be moaning shit happens
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
jesus is it that hard to take the two incidents as individual to each other? Because when you do, the foul was clearly a penalty. People need to stop going "well this happened before it". It doesn't matter. Play continued, then the foul occurred. They aren't the same incident so stop treating them like they were just because it suits.

I'm delighted the ref ballsed up. It may have had zero influence on the overall game, who knows? But stop trying to justify a foul by reaching out to some other thing.

I'll ask again, if we were on the receiving end of that foul, would you not be up in arms, offside or not?
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The fact of the matter is it wasn't a penalty the ref didn't give it
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
jesus is it that hard to take the two incidents as individual to each other? Because when you do, the foul was clearly a penalty. People need to stop going "well this happened before it". It doesn't matter. Play continued, then the foul occurred. They aren't the same incident so stop treating them like they were just because it suits.

I'm delighted the ref ballsed up. It may have had zero influence on the overall game, who knows? But stop trying to justify a foul by reaching out to some other thing.

I'll ask again, if we were on the receiving end of that foul, would you not be up in arms, offside or not?
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You saying we had 2 def pens not given as well then?
 
peace frog said:
Match Stats
Home TeamBurnleyAway TeamMan City
Possession
Home33%
Away67%
Shots
Home10
Away21
Shots on Target
Home5
Away5
Corners
Home5
Away8
Fouls
Home8
Away15
cant wait until we do create chances,
that's a chance every 4 or so minutes,after a champs league game on a Wednesday and we were away from home against a "local" side in a derby atmosphere
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A shot is not a chance FFS. We created a few chances yesterday but we also had a lot of long distance shots which missed by 5+ yards - which doesn't make it a chance.

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Here is the expected goals. You can see that we had 2 big chances, and we scored from both. Other than that, very, very little.

It's been a recurring theme so far this season, dominating possession, looking very good until the final pass, which means we aren't getting loads of chances.

There's been a few exceptions - Middlesbrough and Everton - but the fact we are dominating games without creating many clear goal scoring opportunities will definitely be worrying Pep - he's mentioned it before.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
jesus is it that hard to take the two incidents as individual to each other? Because when you do, the foul was clearly a penalty. People need to stop going "well this happened before it". It doesn't matter. Play continued, then the foul occurred. They aren't the same incident so stop treating them like they were just because it suits.

I'm delighted the ref ballsed up. It may have had zero influence on the overall game, who knows? But stop trying to justify a foul by reaching out to some other thing.

I'll ask again, if we were on the receiving end of that foul, would you not be up in arms, offside or not?
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I'm not trying to justify the foul. My issue is that you seem to want to stress how incredibly lucky we were with one incident but you don't seem to want to acknowledge that we were as equally unlucky with the previous incident. As I said, you are just being bizarrely contrary.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
I'm not trying to justify the foul. My issue is that you seem to want to stress how incredibly lucky we were with one incident but you don't seem to want to acknowledge that we were as equally unlucky with the previous incident. As I said, you are just being bizarrely contrary.
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Not at all. I've said we were lucky with the foul. Offsides being wrong are a given in most games and tbh the sun probably played an even bigger factor. Who knows, on a cloudier day the entire series of events could have been different in any manner of ways.

I'm not being contrary, yes the pair of incidents were judged wrongly. But one does not equal the other.
 
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