Gabriel Jesus

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I can see the transfer window closing before we sign him officially. There is nothing to motivate his old club to speed up this dispute, and you can't expect the FA to make a judgement on this, as it isn't really their area.
 
I can see the transfer window closing before we sign him officially. There is nothing to motivate his old club to speed up this dispute, and you can't expect the FA to make a judgement on this, as it isn't really their area.


About 20 million pounds might be his old clubs motivation
 
That assumes the payment wasn't done when the deal was 4 or 5 months ago.
It wouldn't have been, no. We didn't buy him in the summer and loan him back, we agreed a January transfer, otherwise he would have been registered in the summer.
 
It wouldn't have been, no. We didn't buy him in the summer and loan him back, we agreed a January transfer, otherwise he would have been registered in the summer.
We announced we had signed him in august,it's on page one,my impression is he can't be registered for 2 clubs at once and it's that hand over is being sorted out
 
It wouldn't have been, no. We didn't buy him in the summer and loan him back, we agreed a January transfer, otherwise he would have been registered in the summer.
That bit confuses me but someone posted a link to the OS from the Summer announcing his signing, whether we registered him before loaning him straight back and de-registering him I'm not sure.
 
That bit confuses me but someone posted a link to the OS from the Summer announcing his signing, whether we registered him before loaning him straight back and de-registering him I'm not sure.
There was no loan involved. Otherwise we wouldn't have this issue, loan registration is temporary and he would have automatically reverted back to being a City player on the first of January.
 
It wouldn't have been, no. We didn't buy him in the summer and loan him back, we agreed a January transfer, otherwise he would have been registered in the summer.

The contract was bought in the summer as announced. The transfer and when the contract was bought don't have to be at the same time, and if the deal wasn't done in the summer why was it announced? IF the deal wasn't done in the summer why announced the transfer was agreed? Agreeing the transfer means the contracts were sorted.
 
The contract was bought in the summer as announced. The transfer and when the contract was bought don't have to be at the same time, and if the deal wasn't done in the summer why was it announced? IF the deal wasn't done in the summer why announced the transfer was agreed? Agreeing the transfer means the contracts were sorted.
It wasn't completed in the summer, hence him signing a four and a half year contract. Palmeiras and his agents are arguing about who gets what slice of the money and Palmeiras know they they've no negotiating position once the paperwork goes through.

This is exactly what has happened before with Mangala, Fernando etc and it's completely and utterly out of City's hands.
 
The 19-year old has signed for Manchester City FC despite strong interest from some of the biggest clubs in the world. He will join the team in January 2017, with a contract that runs until the end of the 2020/21 season. He will remain at Palmeiras until December 2016.
 
It wasn't completed in the summer, hence him signing a four and a half year contract. Palmeiras and his agents are arguing about who gets what slice of the money and Palmeiras know they they've no negotiating position once the paperwork goes through.

This is exactly what has happened before with Mangala, Fernando etc and it's completely and utterly out of City's hands.

The contract with Jesus may start in Jan, that has no bearing whatsoever on when City paid the club.

It can't be out of City's hands if city have not already paid, if city haven't paid they still have a strong hand.
 
The contract with Jesus may start in Jan, that has no bearing whatsoever on when City paid the club.

It can't be out of City's hands if city have not already paid, if city haven't paid they still have a strong hand.
Who have we paid then? Palmeiras? His agents? The sporting agency they're arguing with? Did we just give all 3 £27.6m each? Did we pre-empt their coming to an agreement by looking into a crystal ball and paying each party the correct share that they haven't agreed upon yet?

If City get involved in this and hand over money to Palmeiras or anyone else that a court later decides belongs to another party they could find themselves dragged into a fraud case, just as Barca were when they forced an identical issue. It's out of their hands.
 
Who have we paid then? Palmeiras? His agents? The sporting agency they're arguing with? Did we just give all 3 £27.6m each? Did we pre-empt their coming to an agreement by looking into a crystal ball and paying each party the correct share that they haven't agreed upon yet?

If City get involved in this and hand over money to Palmeiras or anyone else that a court later decides belongs to another party they could find themselves dragged into a fraud case, just as Barca were when they forced an identical issue. It's out of their hands.

City paid the club and Caran wants a slice, hence the dispute. Do you think they they him go for nothing awaiting the court case to be sorted in a few years and we pay then?
 
Who have we paid then? Palmeiras? His agents? The sporting agency they're arguing with? Did we just give all 3 £27.6m each? Did we pre-empt their coming to an agreement by looking into a crystal ball and paying each party the correct share that they haven't agreed upon yet?

If City get involved in this and hand over money to Palmeiras or anyone else that a court later decides belongs to another party they could find themselves dragged into a fraud case, just as Barca were when they forced an identical issue. It's out of their hands.
See, I told you I was confused over this and you've made it worse now :(

BTW, as regards 3rd party ownership do we not have to pay Palmerias the full whack and it's then up to them to sort our who gets what? I thought we weren't allowed to pay off 3rd party's directly?
 
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